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Lets start with the package itself - whatever SPECTRA was touted as was based on its introduction as revolutionary (which it was) in the 90’s.
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electromagnetic, laser and infrared domains, employing smart data fusion from multi-spectral sensors to provide identification, location, jamming and decoying against a wide range of threats.
SPECTRA is built on a system of receivers and countermeasures. RF (radio frequency) detectors employ sophisticated techniques such as interferometry for high-precision direction-of-arrival and passive ranging, and digital frequency memory for signal coherence. The system also employs accurate laser warning detectors with direction-finding capability, and a passive infrared missile warning system. Data from all three sensor suites are fused and processed by a central computer, which prioritises and activates the relevant countermeasures, based upon comparison between the received signals and an onboard threat library.”
Now - compare that same description to AIDEWS which is on the block 52 internally and as a pod for the MLUs.
“The ALQ-211 family of systems detects, denies, disrupts, degrades and evades lethal threats and provides multi-spectral (radio frequency, infrared and laser) situational awareness. When the aircrew encounters a threat emission, the ALQ-211 establishes the threat range from the mission aircraft. If an aircraft is in lethal range of the threat, the ALQ-211 initiates an integrated instantaneous response, breaking missile lock through RF countermeasures, and cues the use of chaff and flares. As the aircraft’s survivability suite controller, the ALQ-211 coordinates the response for laser and infrared threats, providing a truly integrated approach to aircraft self-protection.”
How much of this sounds the same? The threat library is updated via the EW on the block-52s and passive on the pods.
The AIDEWS is the more current system in terms of architecture and design although SPECTRA has had its own updates for the F4 standard for India.
Now the system on the block-3 does exactly what SPECTRA does but may have 2-3 EW recievers to the SPECTRAs 6-8.
The AIDEWS threat library is updated also based upon what the US DoD releases to Pakistan that may include whatever basic(not complete) info they have on the SPECTRA.
So, if the PAF has experience with a system that works exactly like SPECTRA and then the Chinese spent 2 months sucking up all the electronic emissions coming off the Rafale’s - there definitely is some base information to go off into adding to the PL-15 to tell it when it may ascertain the Rafale trying to spoof it and it trying to eliminate those spoofs from its sensor feed in going after it.
That doesn’t mean the PAF(or PLAAF) have solved the Rafale and it still remains the dominant weapons system and package in the subcontinent for a good time - but it does mean that the Rafale isn’t going to have a cake walk everywhere it goes.

DRFM is not the only goodie. They couldn't see the thunder coming when it passed near the LOC months ago remember?
Reposting the whole story of 26th February, 2019 and next day..... These short points/snippets were posted in different threads with addition of new updates. Just for the refresher & as a summary; the details are undermentioned. These details are based upon Indian narrative, changing goal posts, media, official changing their statements & whatever being claimed through any medium.
Enjoy.....
I have some pictorial presentation and references of what Indians been doing throughout such an episode of losses, losses and only losses but unable to save their face.
The bogged Indian Air Strike on Balakot
- It started with stolen pictures when Planet Earth has to intervene & expose,
- then went on to share an under construction building which too was exposed,
- then came the whole set of claim that IAF never cross LoC but used SOW,
- then it was made before public that IAF couldn't reach the point due to heavy wind in opposite direction,
- then came Indian DM openly/on the record relying on social media & random pictures,
- then came the claim that India did not intend to cause casualties rather delivered the message,
- then again there are casualties,
- then Spice is a bomb which in fact not the case,
- then claimed that Spice is a whole set of AI which goes inside building and eliminates targets without causing any damage to the structure/burns,
- then came that this is not the place India hit,
- then came that there were clouds on the that day and missing imagery,
- then came that we did not attack infrastructure to minimize any possible civilian casualty and above all,
- when all the foreign observers are brought to the claimed impact point, area & shown the infrastructure; they all are biased & sided with Pakistan or doesn't have the intellect capacity like India.
- and now it is about that one Spice PGM did not leave the aircraft because of a drift in the inertial navigation system.
I have been saying this before and I will repeat that such kind of destruction & casualties in area as such which is not a Military Zone/Cantt, its not possible to hide anything especially in this day & age of Mobile Phones everywhere.
If any Indian wants to vote Modi, no issue but at-least spare us from all this in good faith and for the sake of humanity.
The list of Indian lies continues & I can recount very few here due to unlimited of them.
PAF Operation Swift Retort as promised & Indian complaints
It is literally takes such stamina to lie continuously but I will give it to Modi propaganda house for being consistent & turning Indian Military into a political office for election campaign.
- PAF used jamming/EW tactics.
- Anhinandan couldn't listen to ground control hence, went inside Pakistan.
- Radar imagery shows Abhinandan in Mirpur but he was shot down in Bhimbir and arrested there.
- AWACS were at changeover/Turn around shift but images? really.
- IAF had the so-called electronic reading of PAF F-16 but interestingly, couldn't recognize their own MI-17V5 in Budgam.
- Comms jammed/EW active that couldn't recognize their own MI-17 heli but recorded all this that too when AWACS were not there (Hindustan Times reported).
- Pakistan recovered all 4 AAM of MIG-21 from its debris and there is no counter argument instead, IAF keeps repeating drama based upon lies.
- They heard Pakistan Military comms but Abhinandan & IAF Ground Control remained totally deaf & found dumb.
- Only two slides from IAF Radar being shared but excuse is made due to security reasons. How could it be a security reason when PAF fleet is complete as all F-16s are accounted for by foreign source.
- It took almost 7 weeks for IAF to come up with what? Just couple of AWACS radar images & readings which more seems to be a good CGI work than real time data recording.
- IAF found a piece of AMRAAM & claimed the downing which ended with that India only highlights the use of F-16 only.
- Never knew of IAF could confirm that whether Abhinandan fired at F-16 or it was a ground fire. Neither B.S Dhanoa was sure nor their own briefings. (Check attachments in following post).
- On the same day, one Indian channel reported that a Sukhoi SU-30 is shot down by F-16. The news vanished and Indians retracted that an F-16 was shot down by Sukhoi. Ok and later, it was actually MiG-21 that shot down F-16. I mean how much they want to shoot down at once while IAF getting shot down on that day one after another.
- Interestingly, the then Chief Dhanoa put everything on Abhinandan and that ill fated MiG-21. When asked who shot down F-16, said Abhinandan. When asked, where is the proof, said with MiG-21 flight data recorder etc. When asked how to prove that, said MiG-21 is with Pakistanis. Really?
- PAF displayed all the armaments/weapons including bullets on MiG-21 Bison intact and nothing fired. In return, Indian geniuses came with idea that these missiles are available on eBay.
Wait a minute, several things are Undecided.
India started to blames for own failure
- Balakot was not hit but then again, 300+ were killed. Indian Media Mistake.
- BJP says no casualties were intended hence, no kill but delivered the message. Minister Mistake.
- IAF did not reach Balakot but SOW launched due to wind. Nature Mistake.
- Spice-2000 is an AI bomb, goes in without crater damage & eliminate targets. Alleged Camp Mistake.
- Spice 2000 is not a Bomb but a Kit. Professionals Mistake.
- Initial provided Balakot SAT images proven fake/stolen. Google Earth etc Mistake.
- Indian FM relies on SAT images on Social Media, proven wrong/old. Social Media Mistake.
- PAF retaliated at Six Points inside IoK. Israeli Defence Equipment Mistake.
- India doesn't have Rafale to counter PAF. France Mistake.
- MI-17V5 was hit by Israeli SAM.. Israeli Mistake.
- MI-17V5 pilot did not follow SOP claimed six lives. Pilot Mistake.
- Abhinandan did not follow SOP & disobeyed direct orders. Abhinandan Mistake.
- All Indian AWACs were in shift change/Turn around/Change over/Tarmac. AWACs mistake.
- No AWACs but images are available, proven to be doctored. Photo Shop Mistake.
- An AMRAAM Piece is found & not the F-16 wreckage/loss/even a single bolt. PAF Mistake.
- Int'l Observers confirms PAF F-16 fleet count/all accounted for. US, Pentagon, Source Mistake.
- Sweden provided SAAB AW&EC birds. Sweden Mistake.
- F-16 were used. US Mistake.
- SU MKI can dodge 6 AMRAAMs but did not take a single shot. Russian Mistake.
- SU-30 MKI crashed on the same time/day & claimed to be Tech Failure. Russian Mistake.
- Abhinandan did not fire single missile. PAF or Russia Mistake.
- Alan Warnes interviewed CAS, provided with Proof. Alan Warnes mistake.
- ABP Indian News Channel interviews witnesses, acknowledges the crash of SU-30 MKI on 27th Feb, 2019 in Sher Makri area of Bhawani B, IoK. Indian News channel mistake.
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There are way too many papers for me to post so I am just posting titles. Summary: PAF's biggest (based on research output) project seems to be an X-band fighter AESA radar.
This is mostly gibberish to me because I don't know this stuff. Perhaps @Signalian can comment on these papers if there's anything to comment on how serious this stuff actually looks.
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An X-Band Coupled Lined Based Channel Failure Detection Mechanism For Active Phased Arrays
Active phased arrays are mainly used in radars providing exceptional detection, targeting, tracking, and self-protection capabilities. In these radars, every element has its own Transmit/Receive (T/R) module, which makes the system more reliable. However, a detection mechanism is considered...ieeexplore.ieee.org
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Design of High-Performance X-Band Monopulse Comparator for Active Phased Array Radar Applications
Monopulse Comparator is one of the core components in development of RF front-end of the tracking radars and therefore widely employed in active phased array radars. Thus, active phased array system are progressively becoming the norm for airborne radars imposing stringent requirement on...ieeexplore.ieee.org
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Design of 15W X-Band GaN Based Transmit / Receive Module for Airborne Active Phased Array Radar Applications
Transmit / Receive module (TRM) is the core component that addresses key requirements of next generation Active Electronically Scanned Array Radars i.e. multifarious functionality, modularity and scalability. Furthermore, ostensible requirements of miniaturization, wideband performance...ieeexplore.ieee.org
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Target Parameter Estimation in Reduced Dimension STAP for Airborne Phased Array Radar
Space-Time Adaptive Processing (STAP) is an integral part of modern airborne phased array radars for slow-moving target detection. Conventional Pulse-Doppler radars estimate target parameters from the range-Doppler map. The estimated bearing of a target is limited by antenna beamwidth. STAP...ieeexplore.ieee.org
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Co-site Antenna Interference Analysis on Aerial Platform
Co-site antenna interference normally occurs when multiple transmitting and receiving RF systems are installed close to each other. This interference may be wideband or broadband or in the form of intermodulation, harmonics and noise. It is common to find various individual wireless systems...ieeexplore.ieee.org
This is probably work for Azm MALE (not AESA radar) even though they've used an MQ-9 CAD model for some reason.
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Miniaturized Grounded Co-planar Waveguide Based X-Band Equal Split Wilkinson Power Divider for AESA Application
Wilkinson Power Divider is extensively used in the development of RF-Front End of AESA Radar. Significant work has been done to design Wilkinson power dividers (WPD) to feed sub-arrays of radars for beam-forming application. Many topologies have already been proposed in the literature to reduce...ieeexplore.ieee.org
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@Bilal Khan (Quwa) contrary to what many of us were thinking, this does not look like just a systems integration exercise. There seems to be work on the actual T/R modules too.
Okay I will try.@RescueRanger @Waz @Hyde
Is there anyway to salvage this thread? Copying is very tedious and the forum doesn’t allow the attachment of many files due to size restrictions. It has a list of lot of research papers from Pakistan. Thanks to @JamD for collecting them.
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Research Papers: Pakistani Aerospace Technologies
Army Watches. Air Force Talks. Navy Shows. @JamD in 3 weeks: "Conceptual design nuclear-powered AUUV with VL-LACM capability."pdf.defence.pk
Thank you brother! Yes was checking, it seems all the relevant posts have been salvaged. Thank you again@Bilal bahi I have backed up all that I could salvage, minus the discussions because I don't think they added any value, some images have been cropped due to limitation of this new forum. The files that were over 1mb have been shared using WeShare due to file size sharing limitation.
Please check and make sure nothing is missing.

It was my pleasure, to be honest that thread was a gem of a thread. We need more factual threads like that here.Thank you brother! Yes was checking, it seems all the relevant posts have been salvaged. Thank you again
Is dafa Pakistani style salute
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Absolutely, I was planning to back it up but got late and now I was panicking since 31st has past and it may have been lost.It was my pleasure, to be honest that thread was a gem of a thread. We need more factual threads like that here.
Pakistan has constructed a new horizontal test stand for large solid-fueled motors at its Attock missile development complex.
Pakistan has been developing a new solid-fueled missile to carry heavy payloads to Indian targets, possibly MIRVed. Effectively the same idea as the old Soviet Pioneer missile. If they want a solid-fueled missile with a diameter of 2m+, they're gonna need a test stand like this.
We should take this as evidence that Pakistan is serious about developing a medium range MIRV system. India has some advantage in quick, accurate striking, so bolstering the survivability of your force by loading up individual missiles with lots of warheads is an obvious choice.
I predict full system test within 3 years. New missile likely to be canisterized.
Someone else on twitter says test stand may have SLBM applications. But since no Pakistani submarine is in development with VLS I can't see this happening within the next 10 - 15 years.
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