Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

[R2D2]

Benazir was right. Zia got armtwisted into radicalizing half of Pakistan into becoming a proxy for the west against the Soviets.

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He should have asked for jets and missiles instead of assisting in giving birth to the taliban.

However he had bought time so that Pakistan could complete its nuclear program because declining the west would have meant further scrutiny and it would have ended with air strikes like what happened with Iraq.

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The training to Afghan Mujahideen like Hikmatyar, Ahmed Shah Massoud, Burhanuddin Rabbani started during Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto's time around 1973-4. Taliban were created by Naseerullah Babar who was in PPP under Benazir's government. Bilawal is a rubber stamp who will do anything he is told by the establishment.

 

[Distant_Observer]

The training to Afghan Mujahideen like Hikmatyar, Ahmed Shah Massoud, Burhanuddin Rabbani started during Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto's time around 1973-4. Taliban were created by Naseerullah Babar who was in PPP under Benazir's government. Bilawal is a rubber stamp who will do anything he is told by the establishment.

Mujahideen, Taliban, TTP, its all the same.

 

[R2D2]

So in essence, Pakistan NEEDS to create a HIGHLY nationalistic and patriotic movement that supplants pacifism and all other beliefs/systems of thinking that ALL Pakistanis can buy into.

Nationalism and Patriotism has failed in Pakistan as it is absent on the ground. The people are of different nationalities and linguistic groups. Urdu is only a common language. The political leadership in Punjab is promoting Punjabi Nationalism as it is scared of Pashtuns under Imran Khan. Only religion can unite Pakistan and the region around it.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

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Cremate this son of a prostitute and spread his remains into the river ganges.

 

[VectorZero]

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[hussain0216]

Let's see who he blames this time. For last 4 years it was always PTI. I am sure this is going to be the same.

PTI is currently peddling propaganda against the same state

It's not as bad as PTM or ANP but it's not far behind

 

[Distant_Observer]

PTI is currently peddling propaganda against the same state

It's not as bad as PTM or ANP but it's not far behind

They need to declare governer rule and get rid of the troublemakers and sympathizers. KPK needs a firm hand to give them direction.

Can they even do proper rebuilds after a war. Lets say they had to fight a guerilla war against deeply entrenched taliban proxies in Peshawar and the city becomes a warzone, they couldn't afford to rebuild it.

So they are being passive and kicking the can down the road.

Chechnya and Xinjiang were fixed by building better than before and everyone was happy. The same will need to be done across the western frontiers.

 

[reader2026]

TBH I believe we'd be better off without the savages on the western side but the patriot in me knows that's not viable. So total war it must be until they are beaten.

 

[Oscar]

So in essence, Pakistan NEEDS to create a HIGHLY nationalistic and patriotic movement that supplants pacifism and all other beliefs/systems of thinking that ALL Pakistanis can buy into.

Which is impossible GIVEN the structure of governance and overall lack of consistency in governance structure over the past 75 years.