Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

Distant_Observer said:
KP govt is the number 1 reason why security has declined in Pakistan.

It needs a full military invasion and martial law for a period of 10 years minimum.

I don't understand for how long can they tolerate this dysfunctional province.



It will result in mass invasion of Afghans into Pakistan and our culture, sensibilities and ethics will cease to exist and eventually become just as degenerate as the civilized become a minority.

A hard border with buffer and a decimated and neutered Afghanistan is the best solution.
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Afghanistan and Taliban Lovers are all over, MIlitary, National Assebly, provicial Assemblies, Jounalists and public. and we know who allowed and protecting them.

KPK is qurbani ka bakra to blame the failure.

Border control, stopping infiltrations and IBOs are not any provicial Govt resposbilities. As we have seen during this Operation and previous once, when we are eliminating threats on and across the border, with IBOs terrorism decreased more than 60%, remaining in due to terrorists already within Pakistan, which again requires Intelligence based.

KPK shares border with Afganistan, and that border was left unckecked, for the reasons our Civ and Mil authorities considered it to be benificial, but it did not workout as planned.

So, what we seeing now is not failure of any provincial Govt., its a result of Federal / Mil policies.

KPK awam and Govt are just frustrated and victim of these failed policies and directly affected and suffering.

Finally, if we do our job to manage the border and spare some Intelligence resoucrces for this purpose, this monster can be controlled and killed, Internally and externally, instead of blaming the provicial Govt and our own citizens, which causes more division,

I hope, I was able to type in a way which is easily understandable.

NO Politics, No Drama, no Love for any haramkhor. Just the facts and logics.

Only people with atleast few functional brain cells can understand and agree, rest are zombies.

Thank you for your attention to this matter
 
Irfan Baloch said:
if my brothers had any doubt about the Afghan Taliban sincerety then their recent interaction with Indians and visit to India should clear that doubt. but the challenge is that they should not be blinded by hatred for Pakistan army.
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They did that right after the May battle Pakistan fought with India, and there had been no bombing of Afghan land.
I've said from the start with them, they play dress up as Islamic warriors, they are nothing more than a ethnic supremacist outfit, with extreme nationalist views who happen to mix their understanding of Islam.
 
awais_487 said:
Because they are stupid, ignorant, uneducated. Afghan public has been played by the people in power (that is Taliban right now). If Pakistani's can get side tracked by the Indian propaganda, how easy it is for Afghans to get tricked by that Indian propaganda.
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Respectfully brother but this is a distortion of reality and the history of Afghanistan-Pakistan relations, there was no "Indian brainwashing" involved when the Afghans chose to pursue aggressive expansionist designs against Pakistan and refuse to acknowledge its existence since 1947 independence. This predates the Taliban today or any Indian propaganda, it originates from Afghan society first and their rulers.

They have their own desires and motivations for doing this and blaming foreign propaganda is reductive and incorrect. It is a mix of ultra-nationalism, racial supremacy and expansionism. They view Pakistanis as weak easy targets and a place to conquer to increase their own power.
 
There was apparently an attack on the Taliban in Kabul today

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CynicalPakistaniCritic said:
Respectfully brother but this is a distortion of reality and the history of Afghanistan-Pakistan relations, there was no "Indian brainwashing" involved when the Afghans chose to pursue aggressive expansionist designs against Pakistan and refuse to acknowledge its existence since 1947 independence. This predates the Taliban today or any Indian propaganda, it originates from Afghan society first and their rulers.

They have their own desires and motivations for doing this and blaming foreign propaganda is reductive and incorrect. It is a mix of ultra-nationalism, racial supremacy and expansionism. They view Pakistanis as weak easy targets and a place to conquer to increase their own power.
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Brother, I am not saying that the whole Afghan populous is very favorable of Pakistan, so we should show them love. True that it has not always been the propaganda, but right now it is, and it is targeted towards common Pushtoon of Afghanistan, Taliban don't need that propaganda, they have their own ideologies. India has seen their aggressive behavior towards Pakistan and want to cash in on that, and Taliban seeing this help, wouldn't want to reject, but allow them to spread their propaganda.
You rightfully stated that Afghans have always been like this to Pakistan, but then you want to take in those people by taking in their land? That's a bad idea, and I am not really sure how that's going to work out in the long term?
People in majority Pushtoon regions have ties to their relatives in Pakistan, they are not that aggressive, so instead of taking over their land, just give them freedom, if Pushtoonistan can become a country between Pakistan and Afghanistan, that's a great builtin buffer zone and possibility of a merger with that entity in future is possible. But entire Afghanistan? I wouldn't want those people who hated Pakistan so much, to make them Pakistanis, give them Pakistani ID cards, voting rights. I am sure a lot of Pakistanis would never want that, but, without thinking it through, and high on Army's achievements, are cheering this idea.
In recent Greater Afghanistan maps, my hometown in Pakistan is shown in the expanded Afghanistan, if anything I would be the one shouting hysterically that we need to nuke Afghanistan, or take them over before they take over our land. But no, we need sanity checks when there are chances of going insane during a war, not to be distracted from the primary goal. Keep our head clear and achieve our goals without muddying things again and again and again, and have a cycle of f-ups.
 
CynicalPakistaniCritic said:
Respectfully brother but this is a distortion of reality and the history of Afghanistan-Pakistan relations, there was no "Indian brainwashing" involved when the Afghans chose to pursue aggressive expansionist designs against Pakistan and refuse to acknowledge its existence since 1947 independence. This predates the Taliban today or any Indian propaganda, it originates from Afghan society first and their rulers.

They have their own desires and motivations for doing this and blaming foreign propaganda is reductive and incorrect. It is a mix of ultra-nationalism, racial supremacy and expansionism. They view Pakistanis as weak easy targets and a place to conquer to increase their own power.
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Yes that is true, it's naive just to blame India. There's always been a strong ethnic Pashtun nationalist element which sees Pakistan as an oppressor. The same sort who call Pakistani Pashtuns 'Gul Khans'.
 
hasssanali8998 said:
what does it mean btw
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It means 'slave Khans'. They call any Pashtun who is proud of being Pakistani one. Hilarious considering the majority of cultural songs, films, poetry etc in Pashto come from Pakistani Pashtuns.
They truly are stupid beyond belief.
 
hasssanali8998 said:
what does it mean btw
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It's mocking them for being in favour of Pakistan by implying they are naive or weak like a flower.

Afghans want them to join them and usually try to incite them to follow along by supporting their actions and those that don't agree are called it as a mockery.

They really only like the PMKAP or PTM types, but especially the ones that support groups like TTP/BLA
 
Pakistan Space Agency said:
Keeping it's gob shut for a change.
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Agreed, because the real enemies and terrorists are being targetted instead of them,
If they keep doing their jobs, and all the gobs will be shut permanently.

Once Borders are taken cared off and all the Intelligence resouces are used for their intended purposes, Pakistan will be peaceful, united.
 
These Children should be sent to orphanages in Pakistan and be brought into system.. no child that crosses the border with drugs should be sent back to that hell hole... Afghan populace needs a hard reset like that of Banu Qurayza... Except you keep the women and children in concentration camps, educate them and send them back to their lands after they reach puberty... There is no solution other than this if you want to see long term change...

You must rip away the innocent from this violent, cruel and vicious cycle before something fruitful can happen.

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