Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

Seems like the boj isn't even doing anything in Balochistan at all now, they aren't even trying just letting them go on a rampage no change in strategy.

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Hopefully Pessimistic said:
Seems like the boj isn't even doing anything in Balochistan at all now, they aren't even trying just letting them go on a rampage no change in strategy.

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Ask the question why before coming to the conclusion?
What is driving this inaction on these?
Is it purely incompetence?
Purely resource?

On every why, ask four more whys.

as an example.

What is the geography in those areas where a potential QRF or even surveillance could cover? Go look at google maps and provide your idea on what would need to be deployed in those areas to protect those?

Then, having agreed that the military centric model is self defeating - is the BLA idea of inviting the response it needs to get more recruits to its cause?
Is it provoking for an overreaction , to further alienate locals as the military(as it is trained) does its blunt force against all youth and adds further permanence to the cycle?


Then lets look at what the state playbook there is?
BLA has evolved in the last 6 years going from crude IEDs to sophisticated weapons and drones while the state is still using 20th century counter insurgency here.

So by design of WHAT PAKISTAN IS AS A STATE - it is structurally trapped.

All the state has is military force, foreign investment and centralized governance which means sabotage like these bridge demolitions are strategically rational for the BLA and nearly impossible for Islamabad to prevent at acceptable cost.
 
Hopefully Pessimistic said:
All of these were focused on a very specific counter insurgency context which were US & European powers on expeditionary foreign lands.
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Both David Galula and Kitson both wrote extensively for insurgencies in home.

You are dead wrong about some of pakistan's amy initiatives to control insurgencies. There is a reason why there is a calm in Sindh which was once at the verge of collapse.
 
Vapnope said:
Both David Galula and Kitson both wrote extensively for insurgencies in home.

You are dead wrong about some of pakistan's amy initiatives to control insurgencies. There is a reason why there is a calm in Sindh which was once at the verge of collapse.
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Do you know the condition of Sindh?

It is controlled by Wadheras that rely on an age old feudal system that practically keep local slaves and rob the entire province blind. It is not progressive at all, it is like finding a slave master in Sindhi society and making a pact but that slave master also blackmails you with threats of turning separatist if his power is touched.

Secondly, Sindh is a lot more complex its diversified, more urban, terrain is flat, and historically more integrated given that it is Indic culturally.

These kind of false equivalences is what I meant by failure to understand local psychology and context to specific insurgencies.
 
Hopefully Pessimistic said:
Seems like the boj isn't even doing anything in Balochistan at all now, they aren't even trying just letting them go on a rampage no change in strategy.

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Do you understand the basic physics and logistics of fighting a foreign-funded asymmetric war, or are you just looking for a reason to criticize ?

Blowing up an isolated bridge or hitting soft targets in remote areas isn't a sign of military victory. It is the textbook definition of guerrilla desperation. Sabotage does not equal territorial control.

Look at the actual data. Balochistan is a massive, unforgiving landscape covering roughly 347,000 square kilometers. It makes up nearly 44% of Pakistan’s landmass but holds only about 6% of its population.

Guarding every single inch of asphalt, every remote bridge, and every pipeline across thousands of kilometers of empty desert is logistically impossible for any army on earth. Especially when dealing with militants backed by regional hostile powers who melt back across international borders.

The Pakistan Army holding the line against a multi-front proxy war across a massive, underpopulated territory isn’t "giving up." It is a massive, ongoing logistical feat.

But hey, why let geographic reality and military history get in the way of a good tweet? Let's just blindly criticize them anyway because our favorite political leader told us to, and thinking for ourselves is hard.
 
F.O.X said:
Do you understand the basic physics and logistics of fighting a foreign-funded asymmetric war, or are you just looking for a reason to criticize ?

Blowing up an isolated bridge or hitting soft targets in remote areas isn't a sign of military victory. It is the textbook definition of guerrilla desperation. Sabotage does not equal territorial control.

Look at the actual data. Balochistan is a massive, unforgiving landscape covering roughly 347,000 square kilometers. It makes up nearly 44% of Pakistan’s landmass but holds only about 6% of its population.

Guarding every single inch of asphalt, every remote bridge, and every pipeline across thousands of kilometers of empty desert is logistically impossible for any army on earth. Especially when dealing with militants backed by regional hostile powers who melt back across international borders.

The Pakistan Army holding the line against a multi-front proxy war across a massive, underpopulated territory isn’t "giving up." It is a massive, ongoing logistical feat.

But hey, why let geographic reality and military history get in the way of a good tweet? Let's just blindly criticize them anyway because our favorite political leader told us to, and thinking for ourselves is hard.
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Sorry, low tier excuses don't work here.
 
Any deal with the taliban must include Pakistani UN peacekeepers deployed to these border regions on both sides to maintain the peace for a minimum period of 2 years.

Pakistan needs to drop out out of the top 10 in the index if it wants to attract meaningful FDI.
 
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