Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

Hakikat ve Hikmet said:
Every Taliban post 50km off the border is now a fair game for the Pak forces. They need to be destroyed ASAP. And, the dial should be gradually increased with comms, transpiration, businesses etc. My gut feelings is a regime change in Kabul is required.....
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Not ASAP @Hakikat ve Hikmet . May be few posts daily to cause continuous pain that lasts weeks after weeks.
 
Afghans will never accept the border, and that their rule ends at that border. Pakistan has to secure that border in such a way that Afghans will have to accept the border as a fact of life.

As far as TTP holding posts on the Afghan side of the border; should they use it to fire upon Pakistan or Pakistani forces, it gives callus belli for a full response in and around that post.

The goal is changing their behavior, not toppling their regime (at least not at this point, if it comes to that).

A “thunder run” (low pass near-supersonic buzz by the JF-17) should be done along the border and possibly just outside of the nearest town should the Afghans or their TTP “guests” as they call them become. To show them the PAF can be used should they be pushed to do so.

Civilians should be kept out of this as best possible to show this is about dealing with the TTP and that the Afghan Talibs allowing the TTP to be there has brought this to this point.

We need to fortify the border with hardened pill boxes and automated gun systems to save the lives of frontline soldiers. If the TTP see they are not able to inflict casualties, it will also demotivate them.

Limiting the fight to within the border zone will prevent Pakistan from falling into the false narrative trap India is trying to push to get Pakistan to get into a quagmire in Afghanistan.

Pakistan doesn’t need to take Afghan territory but needs to constantly occupy space in Afghan Taliban and TTP minds.

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FuturePAF said:
Afghans will never accept the border, and that their rule ends at that border. Pakistan has to secure that border in such a way that Afghans will have to accept the border as a fact of life.

As far as TTP holding posts on the Afghan side of the border; should they use it to fire upon Pakistan or Pakistani forces, it gives callus belli for a full response in and around that post.

The goal is changing their behavior, not toppling their regime (at least not at this point, if it comes to that).

A “thunder run” (low pass near-supersonic buzz by the JF-17) should be done along the border and possibly just outside of the nearest town should the Afghans or their TTP “guests” as they call them become. To show them the PAF can be used should they be pushed to do so.

Civilians should be kept out of this as best possible to show this is about dealing with the TTP and that the Afghan Talibs allowing the TTP to be there has brought this to this point.

We need to fortify the border with hardened pill boxes and automated gun systems to save the lives of frontline soldiers. If the TTP see they are not able to inflict casualties, it will also demotivate them.

Limiting the fight to within the border zone will prevent Pakistan from falling into the false narrative trap India is trying to push to get Pakistan to get into a quagmire in Afghanistan.

Pakistan doesn’t need to take Afghan territory but needs to constantly occupy space in Afghan Taliban and TTP minds.

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BC we dismembered Indian Cold Start dreams. Can we not just station some tactical nukes on the western front? 15 hazar chor ke 15 lakh bhi ajaye, bc maaro 3 tactical nukes paar dou saare mc. Ajeeb dictation le rahe in Hindu pujaarion se.
 
We need to take wakhan corridor

Even if we have to raise a new 50 k force to get and control wakhan name it FC palmir and hold wakhan

That ls the only way to bring afghan to their senses by hurting their ego
 
RAJPUT said:
BC we dismembered Indian Cold Start dreams. Can we not just station some tactical nukes on the western front? 15 hazar chor ke 15 lakh bhi ajaye, bc maaro 3 tactical nukes paar dou saare mc. Ajeeb dictation le rahe in Hindu pujaarion se.
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The TTP is a band of criminals that are exploiting Pashtunwali. Pakistan needs to beat them on multiple fronts (their narrative, militarily at the point of contact, their economic usefulness to the Afghans, to name three), so we can focus on shaping Pak-Afghan relations to our benefit.

Pakistan doesn’t need to help Afghanistan develop, (in fact, as backwards it remains the better for Pakistan), but needs to develop itself, on its side of the border to be the alluring West Germany to their East Germany, to highlight the contrast, and have our people (and even their people) prefer living in Pakistan, under Islamabad’s rule.

At the end of the day, the Talibs may not rule for long, if they start hurting economic prospects of the tribes, it’s the relationships of Pakistan with each of the tribes we have to shape, as tribes are still the basic unit IMHO, most Afghans still/actually hold their allegiance to.

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Mrc said:
We need to take wakhan corridor

Even if we have to raise a new 50 k force to get and control wakhan name it FC palmir and hold wakhan

That ls the only way to bring afghan to their senses by hurting their ego
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Occupying any Afghan territory will be a rallying cry for Afghans with nothing else to do. Don’t fall into that trap. If you want to bypass the afghans just build the direct rail line to China and wall off Afghanistan. The economic cost that will have on the Afghan tribes will put pressure on the Taliban to behave themselves, enough to have their regime survive.

Fortify the border for God’s sake. Look at the experience of the French during the Algeria war and the Morice Line. It can be down as long as you are not antagonizing the population up to a point and if you are not occupying their territory.

If the Pakistani Pashtuns are with the Pakistani state, and the Afghans pay economic costs for supporting the TTP , then the TTP smuggler criminals will be quickly banished by the Afghan Talibs to Herat or Kunduz.

Look at all the considerations when the French tired it, see auto-translate in English.
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Transformation into civilians is remarkable
 

Afghan Taliban target ‘several points’ in Pakistan in retaliation for airstrikes: Afghan defence ministry​


The development comes days after Pakistani jets targeted TTP insurgent hideouts inside Afghanistan with an aerial bombardment

Reuters
December 28, 2024


Photo: Reuters
 
Mrc said:
We need to take wakhan corridor

Even if we have to raise a new 50 k force to get and control wakhan name it FC palmir and hold wakhan

That ls the only way to bring afghan to their senses by hurting their ego
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Take Wakhan as leverage, and tell the cucks sitting Kabul that they need to get rid of the Pakistani taliban.

If they don't comply, make plans to permanently balkanize Afghanistan. Plenty of war lords and ethnic groups exist that would agree to form their own nations.

The Tajik, Uzbek, and Hazara in particular would chomp at the teeth to have their own nation within what is today referred to as Afghanistan.
 
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