Opinion: India Pakistan near conflict - Escalation management non-existent

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

India should memorize Pakistani response formula: ICIR=2*R (PRFR)

Easy explanation:
ICIR (In Coming Indian Rockets) = 2 Times Response of (Pakistan Rocket Force Rockets). Replace R with M for Missiles when needed.

Essentially, Pakistan upgraded Newton's law of force from "proportional" to DOUBLE in our response

ICIR -> 2*R (PRFR)
R (PRFR) = 2*ICIR

 

[gamaji]

Hopefully the tejas get its moment to shine (pending delivery of engines). Then you can enjoy all the rungs of the ladder you want

Cherry blossom roze laga-ien, nai shan se aien jaien...

 

[Oscar]

The gulf between India and Pakistan in perspective and what's important is miles... lack of escalation management is an outcome of this gulf widening over last few years

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While I do admire the colonial accent - pardon my french as I call Bullshit on everything.
But then what else are you expected to bring up other than Taroor trying his best to be the populist?

Which irrational idiot in charge is escalating by pushing two nuclear armed nations into full conflict?

You think the rhetoric from the army chief is purely coming from some public facade ideal of glorious martyrdom or is Modi and Co simply washed with Mineral Ganges water twice purified?

 

[RajaBaja]

Maryum bhaji does Japan...

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Japan: give us management of lahore for one year and we ill make it Tokyo..

Maryum Bhaijee : our give me Japan for one month and I will make it like Lahore ..

@Fatman17 Can this political garbage be kept away from the thread? Every day so many good threads are derailed.

 

[samsite84]

While I do admire the colonial accent - pardon my french as I call Bullshit on everything.
But then what else are you expected to bring up other than Taroor trying his best to be the populist?

Which irrational idiot in charge is escalating by pushing two nuclear armed nations into full conflict?

You think the rhetoric from the army chief is purely coming from some public facade ideal of glorious martyrdom or is Modi and Co simply washed with Mineral Ganges water twice purified?

There is no end to "Holier Than Thou"isms - on both sides of the border. The sooner both parties realize (and I think the ones in charge do), the better.

Whatever one may claim, there is an inherent benefit to PA to keep the fires burning (they get disproportionate share of power, assets, budget). Similarly, hard right wingers in India have an inherent benefit to keep the issue simmering.

The only solution is when some outlier in PA on Pakistani side thinks of greater good of Pakistani people. In India, politicians from both sides of the aisle (Vajapayee, Manmohan and now Modi) have tried their best. Same can't be said about Pakistani side

 

[RajaBaja]

There is no end to "Holier Than Thou"isms - on both sides of the border. The sooner both parties realize (and I think the ones in charge do), the better.

Whatever one may claim, there is an inherent benefit to PA to keep the fires burning (they get disproportionate share of power, assets, budget). Similarly, hard right wingers in India have an inherent benefit to keep the issue simmering.

The only solution is when some outlier in PA on Pakistani side thinks of greater good of Pakistani people. In India, politicians from both sides of the aisle (Vajapayee, Manmohan and now Modi) have tried their best. Same can't be said about Pakistani side

You are honestly so innocent that you don't know or can't see what happened here? Pakistan has moved away from its India policy since Mushy's time.

The situation now is due to Modi's personal vendetta. Rafale's that he direly wanted in 2019 were here. Modi is going out of political career soon. So one time before he left, he wanted to take the title of "I fixed Pakistan" with him for history to remember this "yudh" . Instead of that "yudh" helping him with his legacy and career, it became the most disasterous and embarrassing point of his career and global embarrassment for India along with so many other things that lit up due to this 5 day war with Pakistan. India lost big times it's global power ranking, etc.

Now, from our side, since Mushy's time, almost every politician in power tried their best to become friends with India. Nawaz and Zardari have taken heat from Imran Khan to be "pro Indians", "Modi ka yaar" and all that. Our previous army chief was a big proponent of essentially accepting India in its form. So educate yourself on reality vs. Hidutva.

It's very obvious, two families, or two Hindu Kings: Ambani and Adani's are ruling and running 1.4 billion people crazy.

 

[samsite84]

You are honestly so innocent that you don't know or can't see what happened here? Pakistan has moved away from its India policy since Mushy's time.

The situation now is due to Modi's personal vendetta. Rafale's that he direly wanted in 2019 were here. Modi is going out of political career soon. So one time before he left, he wanted to take the title of "I fixed Pakistan" with him for history to remember this "yudh" . Instead of that "yudh" helping him with his legacy and career, it became the most disasterous and embarrassing point of his career and global embarrassment for India along with so many other things that lit up due to this 5 day war with Pakistan. India lost big times it's global power ranking, etc.

Now, from our side, since Mushy's time, almost every politician in power tried their best to become friends with India. Nawaz and Zardari have taken heat from Imran Khan to be "pro Indians", "Modi ka yaar" and all that. Our previous army chief was a big proponent of essentially accepting India in its form. So educate yourself on reality vs. Hidutva.

It's very obvious, two families, or two Hindu Kings: Ambani and Adani's are ruling and running 1.4 billion people crazy.

Here we go again... Cool man -

 

[Pradotlc]

@Fatman17 Can this political garbage be kept away from the thread? Every day so many good threads are derailed.

you called Maryum Bhaji garbage?.. tsk tsk

 

[Pradotlc]

Here we go again... Cool man -

dude you need to need to lose RSS hindu boobism... it is an embarrassment for humanity

 

[Pradotlc]

IAF has been very active over IOK for the last week(s), methinks they might try some sort of dramatic attack on Islamabad

mass ejaculation ?...

 

[Psyko70]

Saw movie jaat. Indian army deployment taking 3 hrs. Only sunni deol nearby so they send him. What a crap. Even in movie takes them 3 hrs to deploy even inside india.

 

[RajaBaja]

Saw movie jaat. Indian army deployment taking 3 hrs. Only sunni deol nearby so they send him. What a crap. Even in movie takes them 3 hrs to deploy even inside india.

Indian air force holds a world record. It is the ONLY air force, that grounds itself during a war! The ONLY time when their country needs them the most.

It's like a Doctor leaving for vacation in the middle of a full emergency room with patients.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

You are honestly so innocent that you don't know or can't see what happened here? Pakistan has moved away from its India policy since Mushy's time.

The situation now is due to Modi's personal vendetta. Rafale's that he direly wanted in 2019 were here. Modi is going out of political career soon. So one time before he left, he wanted to take the title of "I fixed Pakistan" with him for history to remember this "yudh" . Instead of that "yudh" helping him with his legacy and career, it became the most disasterous and embarrassing point of his career and global embarrassment for India along with so many other things that lit up due to this 5 day war with Pakistan. India lost big times it's global power ranking, etc.

Now, from our side, since Mushy's time, almost every politician in power tried their best to become friends with India. Nawaz and Zardari have taken heat from Imran Khan to be "pro Indians", "Modi ka yaar" and all that. Our previous army chief was a big proponent of essentially accepting India in its form. So educate yourself on reality vs. Hidutva.

It's very obvious, two families, or two Hindu Kings: Ambani and Adani's are ruling and running 1.4 billion people crazy.

Rafales mean top $s for Ambanis. Hence, they're procuring even more in numbers. 15 tycoons control Bharat. No wonder the Pak Chief has directly threatened to demolish their wealth. As for President Trump, he wants to lash them to the ground. I won't be surprised if their off-shore wealth is confiscated for war profiteering....

 

[Pradotlc]

Indian air force holds a world record. It is the ONLY air force, that grounds itself during a war! The ONLY time when their country needs them the most.

It's like a Doctor leaving for vacation in the middle of a full emergency room with patients.

Well if they did not ground PAF would have knocked from the skies

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

IMO the crux of the matter is the PAF grounded the IAF even without crossing the border. Imagine if they'd crossed the border! It'd have been the end of the Bharati conventional deterrence! No wonder the Pentagon has lost all hope on them......