PA MLRS, Self Propelled and towed artillery [BM-11, Fatah-I GMLRS, Fatah-II] - News, Updates & Discussions

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Pakistan conducts successful flight test of Fatah-II

December 27, 2023

Pakistan today conducted successful flight test of Fatah-II, equipped with state of the art avionics, sophisticated navigation system and unique flight trajectory.
The weapon system is capable of engaging targets with high precision up to a range of 400 kilometres.
Flight test was witnessed by senior officers from tri services and dedicated scientists and engineers.
The President, Prime Minister of Pakistan, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee and Chief of Army Staff congratulated participating troops and scientists on successful conduct of flight test.

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400km? DAMN!

 

[Hussain]

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Sir, This looks like an SH-1, which happens to be a SPH, and not MLRS / GMLRS.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[_NOBODY_]

This should sell like halva, i see Egypt as first customer they are in dire need for such system as deterence and first strike capability.
You should send couple of those free of charge to Liban also.

If Egypt ends up buying this system from us then will we sell a 250 km version as that would be MTCR compliant or will we be open to providing them TOT and letting them manufacture this system under a different name to bypass MTCR regulations?

@Quwa @RescueRanger @Ali_Baba

 

[Oscar]

If Egypt ends up buying this system from us then will we sell a 250 km version as that would be MTCR compliant or will we be open to providing them TOT and letting them manufacture this system under a different name to bypass MTCR regulations?

@Quwa @RescueRanger @Ali_Baba

Egypt can access a similar system directly from China if wants to go down that route. No need for Pakistan to be involved as a middleman.

 

[maverick]

It was much needed. Pakistan needs MRLs in really large numbers for multiple fronts.

Need atleast 8 to 12 Artillery battalions to make a difference.

 

[maverick]

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Pakistan conducts successful flight test of Fatah-II

December 27, 2023

Pakistan today conducted successful flight test of Fatah-II, equipped with state of the art avionics, sophisticated navigation system and unique flight trajectory.
The weapon system is capable of engaging targets with high precision up to a range of 400 kilometres.
Flight test was witnessed by senior officers from tri services and dedicated scientists and engineers.
The President, Prime Minister of Pakistan, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee and Chief of Army Staff congratulated participating troops and scientists on successful conduct of flight test.

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How much is the warhead ?

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

400km seems longer ranged than they initially stated. Wasn't it meant to be around 250km?

 

[SaadH]

It's following a ballistic trajectory, looks to be more of an SRBM...

 

[CSAW]

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[Reichmarshal]

whole Pakistan startegik assetss are then by stance is under indian rocket propelled artilarry range as all of major ammo and missile dumps and sites and command and control centers to major radar stations and storage depots situated not more than 35 to 185 Km from indian border and well within range of indian regular artilarry and rocket multi barrel rocket propelled artilarry and new genration Pinaka MK I & MK II and Smerch type MBRL and of solid fuel based Prahar-Pratibha type short ranged missiles ... what has pakistan to stop them

Not true.....ur assessment is way off

 

[Dalit]

This should sell like halva, i see Egypt as first customer they are in dire need for such system as deterence and first strike capability.
You should send couple of those free of charge to Liban also.

We will probably sell them to Ukraine for more IMF loans from the US.

 

[JamD]

Looks like 2 missiles per launcher. At 400km range, the question is really what targets are these meant for and how many can we realistically launch in a conflict?

 

[Quwa]

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Looks like 2 missiles per launcher. At 400km range, the question is really what targets are these meant for and how many can we realistically launch in a conflict?

It could be more of a Nasr-type role...miniature nuclear, pre-emptively strike an incoming IBG from across the border, possibly while it's mobilizing/prepping.

 

[SD 10]

The question is if its short range ballistic missile than will it work against s400? As oppose to a SRBM what advantages or disadvantages a rocket has at 400km?

 

[JamD]

It could be more of a Nasr-type role...miniature nuclear, pre-emptively strike an incoming IBG from across the border, possibly while it's mobilizing/prepping.

There is no mention of nuclear in the press release. No mention of nuclear in Fatah-1 either, as far as I recall. I think Fatah series are supposed to have a conventional role. Furthermore, the final clip of hitting near the flag, you don't need (and need to show) that kind of accuracy for a nuclear weapon, albeit tactical.

With that context, I would repeat my question: What can you hit that is maybe 10 targets, which is worth expending 10 Fatah-II's on? Would have to be really high-value, not covered by S-400. I would imagine that an integrated air-defense system would have no trouble shooting down Fatahs. Maybe take out an AWACs on the ground or something - I don't know.