PAF J-10CE News, Updates and Discussion

[RajaBaja]

Again I don't think you comprehend what I said - just like the Chinese members perhaps. And please don't be naive by using the term " These Chinese members Aren't talking about winning from anyone". Their grand daddy USA is on their door step with full suite of weapons and ready to pound the Chinese ass big time. So please spare us with this naivity of "Not winning" bullshit.

So whatever Chinese weapons production priorities are for themselves, they have no option but to have the same Priorities of weapons production for their key strategic allies AS WELL. THERE IS NO OTHER WAY.

Your post doesn't make any sense and isn't related to the topic. So no need to comment on it. If you have some personal issues with the Chinese members, can't help you.

 

[ARMalik]

Your post doesn't make any sense and isn't related to the topic. So no need to comment on it. If you have some personal issues with the Chinese members, can't help you.

Pointing out GROUND REALITIES is not having issues with Chinese members but correcting the misconstrued fairtales and fantasies with hard facts.

And of course my post does not MAKE SENSE to you - they might be some conprehension issues on your end.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Pointing out GROUND REALITIES is not having issues with Chinese members but correcting the misconstrued fairtales and fantasies with hard facts.

And of course my post does not MAKE SENSE to you - they might be some conprehension issues on your end.

What GROUND REALITIES are you talking about?

 

[rafale]

So true, 70s, 80s, 90s PLAAF was in awe of PAF, its training and aircraft.

Now other way round.....

In 70s and upto mid 80s, Pakistan's economy was superior to China's as well on per capita basis.....

But then a certain breed of ethnic politics mixed with deadly religious nutjobs arrived and rest is history.............

Given Pakistan location, resources, manpower and relationships at that time (1970s), Had Pakistan acted rightly, it would have been superior to Singapore today.

80s was the last time you could correct the otherwise downward path........it is the moment when everything started going downhill.

 

[Taimoor]

Not a single piece of footage has emerged of a single target in India being hit (excl hazy pic of a building inside Udhampur base, even then the claims of hitting runway in Udhampur wa debunked by sat imagery).
That it's elf shows PAF failed to carry out any effective strikes.

There is nothing "debunked", all India did was to repair the damaged runways within 8 hours which it should be given credit for.

And I will go back to this fact that not on one occasion IAF fired any a2a missile at PAF, despite been taken to cleaners and losing 6+ jets, you would expect atleast they will fire something in anger.

I am not the one who believe IAF pilots are muppets, specially the ones flying Rafale, afterall they are the cream of the cream. But they were simply tonked with overwhelmingly superior technology and weaponry of PAF. Its like going into a battle with assault rifle, a very potent weapon, but the adversary is using snipers. Zero chance! Whatever came within that 200km aerial bufferzone created inside India by PL15, was at the mercy of PAF ground strikes with no protection from IAF air fleet.

 

[Yasser76]

In 70s and upto mid 80s, Pakistan's economy was superior to China's as well on per capita basis.....

But then a certain breed of ethnic politics mixed with deadly religious nutjobs arrived and rest is history.............

Given Pakistan location, resources, manpower and relationships at that time (1970s), Had Pakistan acted rightly, it would have been superior to Singapore today.

80s was the last time you could correct the otherwise downward path........it is the moment when everything started going downhill.

Dude, this has nothing to do with the thread, and your s**t talking on Pakistan is getting boring

 

[RajaBaja]

In 70s and upto mid 80s, Pakistan's economy was superior to China's as well on per capita basis.....

But then a certain breed of ethnic politics mixed with deadly religious nutjobs arrived and rest is history.............

Given Pakistan location, resources, manpower and relationships at that time (1970s), Had Pakistan acted rightly, it would have been superior to Singapore today.

80s was the last time you could correct the otherwise downward path........it is the moment when everything started going downhill.

That's past. Looking forward to re-balancing of the economy to around $ 600 billion in 2028 and hopefully by or before 2035, ONE trillion IA. All indicators are positive that we can hit the growth we need two from 2028 onwards. So be excited about the future than thinking about the past.

Not a single piece of footage has emerged of a single target in India being hit (excl hazy pic of a building inside Udhampur base, even then the claims of hitting runway in Udhampur wa debunked by sat imagery).
That it's elf shows PAF failed to carry out any effective strikes.

Then I feel bad about your country and angry at your leadership....... if there was NO threat or damage by Pakistan, why did they get your nation embarrassed in front of the world because you guys asked for a ceasefire from the Saudis, Turks and American.

Ass CNN's Nick Robertson puts it "is was the relentless missile barrage by Pakistan that forced the Indians to ask for the ceasefire, they called the Saudis, Turkye and the Americans".

I CHALLENGE you on this, get a hold of Modi and ask him to take an oath on Bhagvat Geeta and speak the truth.

 

[rafale]

That's past. Looking forward to re-balancing of the economy to around $ 600 billion in 2028 and hopefully by or before 2035, ONE trillion IA. All indicators are positive that we can hit the growth we need two from 2028 onwards. So be excited about the future than thinking about the past.



Then I feel bad about your country and angry at your leadership....... if there was NO threat or damage by Pakistan, why did they get your nation embarrassed in front of the world because you guys asked for a ceasefire from the Saudis, Turks and American.

Ass CNN's Nick Robertson puts it "is was the relentless missile barrage by Pakistan that forced the Indians to ask for the ceasefire, they called the Saudis, Turkye and the Americans".

I CHALLENGE you on this, get a hold of Modi and ask him to take an oath on Bhagvat Geeta and speak the truth.

They will happily take oath on whatever you demand, they are liars and cheats of the highest order.

Like i have said time and gain, Rafales being shot down like flies was too much for them......

 

[Assault Rifle]

Then I feel bad about your country and angry at your leadership....... if there was NO threat or damage by Pakistan, why did they get your nation embarrassed in front of the world because you guys asked for a ceasefire from the Saudis, Turks and American.

Ass CNN's Nick Robertson puts it "is was the relentless missile barrage by Pakistan that forced the Indians to ask for the ceasefire, they called the Saudis, Turkye and the Americans".

I CHALLENGE you on this, get a hold of Modi and ask him to take an oath on Bhagvat Geeta and speak the truth

CNN itself said he was quoting a Pakistabi official.

 

[Ali Yusuf]

Just because the US can't do it doesn't mean China can't. The US and China have different production capacities. For example, the US delivered only nine F-15EXs in five years, while China delivered 350 J-16s during the same period.

It's not about capacities but necessities.

The F-15EX entered service in July 2024. It's only been a year since induction, and I am not sure about the 5 years you mentioned.

As for J-16, production began in 2017, and it has over 350 in service. However, since you mentioned it, production from 2020 to 2024 is around 200 fighters. Impressive indeed. But, not as much as you made it out to be.

 

[MH.Yang]

It's not about capacities but necessities.

The F-15EX entered service in July 2024. It's only been a year since induction, and I am not sure about the 5 years you mentioned.

As for J-16, production began in 2017, and it has over 350 in service. However, since you mentioned it, production from 2020 to 2024 is around 200 fighters. Impressive indeed. But, not as much as you made it out to be.

The F-15EX began production in 2020. The first F-15EX entered service on February 2, 2021.

Who told you that the F-15EX was start production in 2024?

 

[TopGun786]

Not a single piece of footage has emerged of a single target in India being hit (excl hazy pic of a building inside Udhampur base, even then the claims of hitting runway in Udhampur wa debunked by sat imagery).
That it's elf shows PAF failed to carry out any effective strikes.

PAF did obliterated 4 of your Rafales and 3 other jets plus a heron drone right? Now don't ask me about pics and videos.

 

[Ali Yusuf]

Who told you that the F-15EX was start production in 2024?

Because what has been produced has been in small batch production for the US Air Force to test and evaluate. Mass production has begun or will begin in 2025 with 2 aircraft per month till 2026, after which production will be further increased. The official induction of the first 8 or 9 aircraft was carried out in July 2024. That is what I wrote.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

You are entitled to your opinion and I am to mine: I don't see a hot war between America and China for at least next several years; in fact, I see another Superpower 'understanding' between the two much like what existed during the Cold War. I live here and lived here for most of my life and deeply 'embedded' here; and I have my reasons to come to such conclusions. But, of course, no one can predict what's going to happen.

The USA is becoming like China, and China like the USA....

 

[ghazi52]