Ali_Baba
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That would make a lot of sense if there is an AEW&C there too, though how effective a Saab-2000 is against the F-35 is an unknown.
PAF J-10CE News Updates and Discussions part ll
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That would make a lot of sense if there is an AEW&C there too, though how effective a Saab-2000 is against the F-35 is an unknown.
Blain2
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Pakistan escorted Iranian negotiators home from peace talks amid concerns of Israeli attack, sources say
Reuters Published April 17, 2026 Updated about 6 hours agohttps://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaMc238IiRov8okfYy3n
The air force escorted Iranian negotiators home from inconclusive peace talks with the United States last weekend, launching a major operation after the Iranians said Israel might seek to kill them, three sources told Reuters.
Pakistan deployed some two dozen jets in the escort, as well as the force’s Airborne Warning and Control System for aerial surveillance to ensure the safety of the delegation back from Islamabad, said two Pakistani sources with knowledge of the operation.
One said similar security protection would be provided for subsequent talks if the Iranians ask for it, “otherwise Pakistani aircraft would receive them in Pakistan airspace”.
A third source involved in the talks said measures were already in the works ahead of an expected further round of talks as soon as this weekend.
A regional diplomat briefed by Tehran, however, said Pakistan insisted on the escort after Iranian delegates raised the “hypothetical” possibility of a threat.
The discussions with the Iranian delegation about a potential threat while travelling and the presence of a Pakistani air escort into Iran have not previously been reported.
The Israeli prime minister’s office did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Iran’s permanent mission in Geneva did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Pakistan’s air force and military did not respond to questions about the operation. The US embassy in Islamabad did not respond to a request for comment.
“When the talks failed, the Iranians were wary that things had not gone right. It was their suspicion that they might be targeted,” one security source said.
“This was a massive operational mission if you look at it from a pilot’s point of view. You are taking responsibility for a delegation that is coming for talks, you are giving them air cover, you have potent fighters that counter any threat,” he said.
The source involved in the talks, the highest-level engagement between the two countries since 1979, confirmed the air escort but did not provide details about the operation.
“We dropped them all the way to Tehran. Their security was our responsibility even beyond their time here,” the source said.
Sunday’s mission to Iran included Chinese-made J-10 aircraft, the top jet in the air force fleet, one official said.
The Iranian delegation, led by Foreign Minister Abbas Araqchi and Parliament Speaker Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf, a former military officer and certified pilot, requested the security escort, which goes well beyond normal protocol, the two security sources said.
The regional diplomat said the Iranians did not make a formal request but also did not “rule out the possibility that Israel could even strike the aircraft”, prompting Pakistan to insist on providing a security escort.
The delegation did not land in Tehran, the diplomat said, declining to say where they were dropped off.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said last month, “I wouldn’t issue life insurance policies on any of the leaders of the terrorist organisation,” referring to Iran.
“I don’t intend to provide an exact report here about what we are planning or what we are going to do.”
Since the war began, Israel has assassinated Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, national security chief Ali Larijani, commander of paramilitary force Basij Gholamreza Soleimani, Intelligence Minister Esmail Khatib and other top military commanders.
Shortly before agreeing to a ceasefire last week, US President Donald Trump posted on social media: “A whole civilisation will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don’t want that to happen, but it probably will.”
Hours after the Iranians and the US delegation, led by Vice President JD Vance, left Pakistan empty-handed, sources told Reuters that dialogue was still alive.
Trump said on Thursday that the war “should be ending pretty soon” and that talks could take place in Islamabad this weekend.
Pakistan escorted Iranian negotiators home from peace talks amid concerns of Israeli attack, sources say
Sources say Pakistan deployed some two dozen jets in the escort, as well as the force’s Airborne Warning and Control System for aerial surveillance.
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Yasser76
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If anything this goes to show the massive shortage of J-10/J-35 level aircraft we have.
Great news though that we were confident enough to do this operation. Israelis do not know J-10C or PL-15 so must have put them off for sure. However 20 planes is far to few...
Great news though that we were confident enough to do this operation. Israelis do not know J-10C or PL-15 so must have put them off for sure. However 20 planes is far to few...
Yasser76
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No news source os 100% reliable but I will take them over the BS floating around
Yasser76
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Good point, but they would need refullers and support aircraft and not all their force would be 5th gen. Massive assumption I making though...
lightning f57
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@Michael im counting 3 antenna things, I thought PLAAF J10c's had 3 as well?
Michael
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Yes.
This is a very interesting discovery. If the photo is authentic, this marks the first time we have observed its presence on the PAF's J-10CEs.
This is not merely an antenna. There is much more to it than meets the eye. Therefore, we require further evidence to verify whether it truly exists.
Aziqbal
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SATCOM for direct communication with Chinese military satellites ?
Michael
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I cannot verify the authenticity of this photograph, nor am I aware of its actual function within the PAF. I can only provide information regarding the PLAAF.
On the PLAAF's J-10C, this specific antenna serves as a dedicated component designed to "enhance battlefield situational awareness and integrated collaborative combat capabilities." ------ Based on explanations provided by Academician Wang Haifeng, Chief Designer of the J-10C.
In plain language:
This antenna enables a fighter jet to exchange information at high speeds—in real time—with AEW&C aircraft, ground command centers, and other fighters, thereby facilitating the real-time sharing of battlefield situational awareness and collaborative engagement.
If the photo is authentic and its functions are identical or similar to PLAAF's J-10C, then the KJ-500 may indeed be coming to PAF soon.
Aziqbal
Elite Member
If its 3 independent systems like Data link, SATCOM and EW then it could be the "talking to other aircraft" system
if its part of one integrated multiple antenna nodes could be part of a integrated datalink and communication system
I think the found the photo on X, I dont even remember who posted it will check back the authenticity of the original source of the photo
Michael
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You could invite a "respected" senior member of the explain it to you.
After all, I "have absolutely zero context on what the PAF is and is not capable of or systems-wise assuming it is another Sudan. Partially also due to a lack of information within their own circles and echo chamber impact."
Btw. If this photograph is authentic, then this incident is also linked to the PAF's FC-31/J-35 affair.
Aziqbal
Elite Member
You could invite a "respected" senior member of the explain it to you.
After all, I "have absolutely zero context on what the PAF is and is not capable of or systems-wise assuming it is another Sudan. Partially also due to a lack of information within their own circles and echo chamber impact."
Btw. If this photograph is authentic, then this incident is also linked to the PAF's FC-31/J-35 affair.
ok I would not take what someone else said to you in another thread so personally and use that as a template to always distance yourself from any observations on Pakistan
people say things its done its said
Ali_Baba
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Could a J-35AE fit into one of those hangers ?
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