PAF J-10CE News Updates and Discussions part ll

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

You are talking through your hat, at most only half of PLAAF airplanes are still of Russian design and are being fast replaced by new 5th and 6th gen jets at a dramatic speed. where the hell does your 85-90% number from?

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LOL AI is not god and national interest is also sucks source

 

[royalharris]

Guys, every country has its share of trash. Why even bother arguing with people like that?

Arguing with people like them is simply a waste of your time and energy.

 

[ety]

You are talking through your hat, at most only half of PLAAF airplanes are still of Russian design and are being fast replaced by new 5th and 6th gen jets at a dramatic speed. where the hell does your 85-90% number from?

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Basically only airframes of some fighters like J-11 and J-16.

 

[royalharris]

Y-8 (An-12)
H-6 (Tu-16)

J-11/B/BH (Su-27)
J-15 (Su-33)
J-16 (Su-30 MKK/MKK2)
KJ-2000 (similar to Russian A-50U with domestic AESA)
Z-8 (SA-321 super Frelon)
Z-9 ( AS 365 dauphin)
Z-10 (inspired by Eruocopter A-129 Tiger)
Z-11 ( Eurocopter AS-350 Ecruil)
Z-20 ( based on your American S-70)


is this enough for you or you want more?

How about J10、J35、J20、J36、J50、KJ500/600/700/3000、Y20?

Many of the fighter jets you listed have already been retired or are in the process of being phased out

What's the point of talking about obsolete aircraft that have already been retired or are about to be retired? We're talking about the present, not the past.
A mentally ill person is trapped in the past and can't move on.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

How about J10、J35、J20、J35、J50、KJ500、Y20?
Many of the fighter jets you listed have already been retired or are in the process of being phased out

No they are not and all the designs you refer is partially indigenous design other than of J-36/J-50 and KJ-500

 

[royalharris]

you knows nothing kid I did researched Chinese military aviation a lot, you're still in the learning curve copying or reverse engineering is not bad as you think WEST/USA did the same thing after WW2 to get the military tech from occupied Germany (operation paperclip) and same goes to Russians they also captured lot of German military scientists and engineers to their military industrial complexes, you're just emotional and ultra-national fan boy and nothing more

Speak with facts and evidence. If all you have is baseless speculation, then it's better to keep your mouth shut
Whether in terms of its current position or its pace of development, your "American daddy" has already started to fall behind
You should look to the future instead of constantly dwelling on the past and being unable to move on.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Speak with facts and evidence. If all you have is baseless speculation, then it's better to keep your mouth shut
Whether in terms of its current position or its pace of development, your "American daddy" has already started to fall behind
You should look to the future instead of constantly dwelling on the past and being unable to move on.

could you also deny my above list of your foreign based military hardware of China? and btw right now I researching all kind of Soviet/Russian missiles

And you could also deny that J-5/J-6/J-7 were not a copies but indigenous designs lol

 

[royalharris]

could you also deny my above list of your foreign based military hardware of China? and btw right now I researching all kind of Soviet/Russian missiles

And you could also deny that J-5/J-6/J-7 were not a copies but indigenous designs lol

The J5, J6, and J7 were all replicas. So what's the issue? That was more than fifty years ago.
Go back 80 years, and Britain was still ruling India and Pakistan.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

The J5, J6, and J7 were all replicas. So what's the issue? That was more than fifty years ago.
Go back hundred years, and Britain was still ruling India and what is now Pakistan.

Lol J-7 and J-8 recently retired not 50 year ago but you're right about J-6 which is retired in late 80s and J-5 as a trainer named JJ-5 was retired in mid to late 90s with introduction of joint product of K-8/JJ-8

And you were under rule Japan during the ww1 and ww2 and got the independence from Japan after 2 year of our creation in 1947 and now not to try to insult other country's history and stick to the topic if not I have lot more for your country than you think

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Read some history, kid.
China and Japan fought each other in both World War I and World War II, but Japan never ruled all of China.

India and Pakistan, on the other hand, were completely colonized and ruled by your British masters.

you're reported , is this thread is mud sledging to other country's history or PAF J-10 CE thread?

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

You're like a spoiled, pampered child. You picked the fight yourself, but as soon as you realized you didn't have a leg to stand on, you started bawling and ran to your parents for help. That's just embarrassing.
Go ahead and report me to the moderators and get me banned. At least then I can finally leave this forum. Arguing with people like you every day is a complete waste of my time and energy. It feels like every conversation drags the discussion down.

So why you try to Insult my county's history first? did we deliberately allow British to rule Subcontinent?

And if my posts are waste of your time and energy than why you replying me again and again? put me in your ignore list if you don't like my posts lol

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Facts are facts, nothing can change it.

What facts? and stick to the topic, again you're reported for your off topic discussion

 

[Fatman17]

Royal harris and NGAD stop the bickering please. Take your issue to DM and resolve it

 

[Reichmarshal]

It depends on how much leverage remains - if you are comparing IAF pilots working with F-7s in past years it is a case of what’s the harm since they operate the bison.
Myanmar was supposedly secure from India yet times are changing - that matters less and less.

The Singaporeans have been using India for exercises since forever yet your employment of F-16s still leaves Indians guessing.

Then there is BD own interests which post what has happened is unlikely will ever be compromised EVEN if relationships with India improve.

So BD getting J-10s doesn’t compromise PAF as didn’t PAF working with friendly Rafale operators have that much of an impact compared to MDO coupled with PL-15z.

If anything conflicts like 2025 expose more electronically or physically to India than any hypothetical Indian access to J-10

The indian ingress into Bangladesh since 71 n hasina wajid years in specific, cant be wished away. It is their n needs years for Bangladesh to get out of indian shadow all this in light of a very large Hindu affluent and powerful minority, that more Indian then Bangladeshi.

 

[Oscar]

Its modified J-7 with 2 engines just like they modified J-6 to Q-5/A-5 for attack missions and quite similar looking to Su-15 flagon

That’s a rather non-technical and shallow way to approach it. Yes, it was a twin engined J-7 but it’s not like that meant they OR ANYONE could do it in two weeks.

And looking like the flagon is also a result of Sukhoi taking the Su-11 planform and then developing on it.

You may be fair to say they took a similar stepping stone approach but that doesn’t mean the J-8 was not a real aircraft project just as the Su-15 was a real aircraft project.