PAF J-35AE - News, Updates and Discussions

NA71 said:
The Pakistani embassy staff in china seems J35 Fanboy too.....decorated the main room too early with the model .....huhhh...
Just a weekly random post in this thread.....to keep this thread alive.
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No, the ambassador visits certain facilities/institutions and they gift these models as mementos. i can guarantee every foreign dignitary who visits Kamra, get a thunder model, it does not mean they all want to buy the jet.
 
MH.Yang said:
The Su-57D is clearly a customized version for India and is not suitable for Russia with its vast land area. Therefore, Russia is very likely to transfer production lines and technology, and may even open up some of the source code. We should not underestimate the enemy.

We need to pay more attention to the fact that the Su-57D cannot be developed in a short period of time, and Russia and India must have decided long ago to use the Su-57D + S-70 to counter the J-35. We also need to be vigilant about the depth of cooperation between Russia and India.


btw: "Loyal Wingman"is the most important feature of the 5.5G fighter jet, representing a new combat mode of "manned fighter command, unmanned aerial vehicle breakthrough defense". The positioning of S-70 is similar to GJ-11, FH-97A, XQ-58A, MQ-28A.
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In official Russian news sources, the Su-57D is defined as "a combat trainer and a command and control aircraft." [Link]

Note the choice of words here: the function of the aircraft as a trainer is placed first. This profoundly explains why the rear-seat occupants' seating position is so high. This is also the core reason for the fundamental difference in design philosophy between it and the J-20S. From inception to completion, the J-20S was never considered for use as a trainer aircraft.

Buried within the official news release is a hidden detail:
This aircraft was developed by the manufacturer on its own initiative.

The subtext of this statement is as follows:
The Russian military was not involved in the Su-57D project. Consequently, there remains significant uncertainty regarding whether the Russian military will ultimately procure the Su-57D in the future. (This situation mirrors the early stages of the FC-31/J-35 project.)

Furthermore, the official news release implicitly suggests that the Su-57D is intended for the overseas export market. However, whether it has been specifically tailored for India remains a matter of considerable doubt.
 
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Michael said:
If you like, you can also buy one to put on your own desk.
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I'll buy 6 and post it on twitter!
🚨 BREAKING!! PAF TO BUY 6 J-35S AS RANDOM POSTER ON TWITTER SEEN WITH 6 J-35A MODELS DIRECTLY FROM CHINESE EMBASSY (AliExpress)!!!
 
东风夜放花千树 said:
This model of the Pakistani diplomat is very likely an official gift.
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I have verified that this specific model is definitely not a version produced by official Chinese government agencies or by AVIC/SAC.

Currently, the official versions of the J-35 fighter jet model available are as follows:
1. The standard PLAAF/PLAN version, featuring military insignia.
2. The commemorative edition marking the 75th anniversary of the PLAAF.
3. The AVIC version.

Had this model been a gift presented by a Chinese government agency or by AVIC/SAC, it would have belonged to one of the three versions listed above.

However, the photograph reveals that the livery on the model's vertical stabilizer does not correspond to any of the three aforementioned versions. Instead, it matches the versions featuring custom paint schemes—independently applied by model manufacturers—that are currently available for sale on the open market.
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Although this area appears blurry when the photo is enlarged, we can compare its general outline against all known models.
 
Michael said:
In official Russian news sources, the Su-57D is defined as "a combat trainer and a command and control aircraft." [Link]

Note the choice of words here: the function of the aircraft as a trainer is placed first. This profoundly explains why the rear-seat occupants' seating position is so high. This is also the core reason for the fundamental difference in design philosophy between it and the J-20S. From inception to completion, the J-20S was never considered for use as a trainer aircraft.

Buried within the official news release is a hidden detail:
This aircraft was developed by the manufacturer on its own initiative.

The subtext of this statement is as follows:
The Russian military was not involved in the Su-57D project. Consequently, there remains significant uncertainty regarding whether the Russian military will ultimately procure the Su-57D in the future. (This situation mirrors the early stages of the FC-31/J-35 project.)

Furthermore, the official news release implicitly suggests that the Su-57D is intended for the overseas export market. However, whether it has been specifically tailored for India remains a matter of considerable doubt.
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Does this mean the Su-57D lacks the capability to command "Loyal Wingmen"?
 
MH.Yang said:
Does this mean the Su-57D lacks the capability to command "Loyal Wingmen"?
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Official Russian press releases have made mention of its application in this specific domain.
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This indicates that the aircraft manufacturer intends to pursue this direction.

However—does it currently possess this capability? Or, to put it another way: how long would it take to acquire it? That remains a massive question mark.

What we need to keep in mind is this:
1. The Russian military has not yet become involved in this project;
2. Russia is short on funds, yet developing this capability is an extremely capital-intensive undertaking.

Now that Russia has cast its bait, will India take the hook? Let us wait and see!
 
Ak01 said:
yea and the russians can produce like 3 of them.

industries were already struggling previously, with the war, they get cooked even more, sanctions are killing off their usual revenue streams and now they're desperate for a lifeline via an export deal, like india.

could actually see the collapse of the russian aviation production industry in our lifetimes
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Excellently put..............and perhaps same can be said about Rafale and French combat aircraft future........IYKYK :ROFLMAO:

India was created so others could plunder it.
 
Oscar said:
The focus is less on the Rafale's - they are maxxed out with the Meteor and now considered a tackled(if absolutely respectable) threat.

The peripheral vision is seeing a twin Su-57 being prepped which is where the only possible 5th gen threat to Pakistan will emerge from India.
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What about the fifth generation threat from Israel?
 
AZADPAKISTAN2009 said:
2 Years since thread started and no planes delivered yet
Quite disappointing turn around

Specially considering it does not do vertical take off it is a conventional flight capable plane, requiring runway and take off.
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no VTOL BS that adds more weight and fault. F35 is Packed too many things into a single framework
 
Michael said:
I have verified that this specific model is definitely not a version produced by official Chinese government agencies or by AVIC/SAC.

Currently, the official versions of the J-35 fighter jet model available are as follows:
1. The standard PLAAF/PLAN version, featuring military insignia.
2. The commemorative edition marking the 75th anniversary of the PLAAF.
3. The AVIC version.

Had this model been a gift presented by a Chinese government agency or by AVIC/SAC, it would have belonged to one of the three versions listed above.

However, the photograph reveals that the livery on the model's vertical stabilizer does not correspond to any of the three aforementioned versions. Instead, it matches the versions featuring custom paint schemes—independently applied by model manufacturers—that are currently available for sale on the open market.
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Although this area appears blurry when the photo is enlarged, we can compare its general outline against all known models.
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What is that logo on the tai? Doesn't resemble AVIC's, even when flipped. I might be wrong though.
 
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