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[maverick]

This is not my question, answer my question please, India don't have any 5th gen jet and will not have any 5th gen jet near future, their AMCA will not come online after 2035, so we are not in a hurry to buy 5th gen jet because our enemy (India) don't have any 5th gen jets so far, so no threat from our enemy so far

Israel has been actively trying to sabotage Pakistan nuclear program since early 1980s, by collaborating with India. With recent Iranian conflict, they will be emboldened and can even launch joint attack from Indian territory on Pakistan. In 1980s they had stationed their figther aircrafts in India to launch attack on Kahuta. The possibility is high.
J35 will be a deterrent to Israel india joint attack.

Pre-empting the Islamic bomb: Israel’s strikes on Iran and the ghost of Kahuta - The Sunday Guardian Live

Pakistan’s contribution to Iran’s nuclearization, done mainly by A.Q. Khan’s network, delivered key technology, with controversy concerning official

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1980s Joint operation to attack Kahuta

 

[corven]

But he is probably still more well connected with Chinese contacts then anyone else on this forum, so maybe that in itself counts for something. Serious cognitive dissonance going on with this thread. We want to pick and choose what sound sources are actualy sound and give more credibility to anon profiles on here (some of whom may not even be from the country they claim to be from) then to senior former members of the Chinese government. Bizarre......

I have to reply to you again in order to clear up your misunderstanding about this person. The only senior official around Deng Xiaoping who could truly be considered a senior official was his secretary, whose administrative rank was equivalent to that of a division commander in the army.
The translator was affiliated with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and a translation team worked for Deng Xiaoping, not just Gao. They only participated in foreign affairs activities with Deng Xiaoping, but were not with Deng Xiaoping on a daily basis.
His title is extremely misleading because of the three words "Deng Xiaoping". He is actually just an ordinary staff member of the Chinese government's Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
A brief introduction to Deng Xiaoping's secretary will show you that Gao is just an Internet celebrity who is good at hype. Wang Ruilin, Deng Xiaoping's secretary of minutes, finally held the position of general and deputy director of the General Political Department of the People's Liberation Army. This is a real senior official.
Gao was not even a party member, so it was even more impossible for him to access the secrets of the party, government and military; his only role was to serve as a language translator between foreign friends and Deng Xiaoping. After Deng Xiaoping's meeting with foreigners, he returned to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. He did not work with Deng Xiaoping.

 

[Yasser76]

I have to reply to you again in order to clear up your misunderstanding about this person. The only senior official around Deng Xiaoping who could truly be considered a senior official was his secretary, whose administrative rank was equivalent to that of a division commander in the army.
The translator was affiliated with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and a translation team worked for Deng Xiaoping, not just Gao. They only participated in foreign affairs activities with Deng Xiaoping, but were not with Deng Xiaoping on a daily basis.
His title is extremely misleading because of the three words "Deng Xiaoping". He is actually just an ordinary staff member of the Chinese government's Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
A brief introduction to Deng Xiaoping's secretary will show you that Gao is just an Internet celebrity who is good at hype. Wang Ruilin, Deng Xiaoping's secretary of minutes, finally held the position of general and deputy director of the General Political Department of the People's Liberation Army. This is a real senior official.
Gao was not even a party member, so it was even more impossible for him to access the secrets of the party, government and military; his only role was to serve as a language translator between foreign friends and Deng Xiaoping. After Deng Xiaoping's meeting with foreigners, he returned to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. He did not work with Deng Xiaoping.

Sorry, but it seems you may have misunderstood here. Irrespective of him translating for Deng. He was at the UN on behalf of China for 6 years. Of course this does not make him an expert on military affairs, but it will give him good insights into the Pak-China relationship, and I would argue better insights then you or anyone else on this forum

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

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On going Training on J35

Najam sethi is reliable but here i dont know he is mistaken i think? @Deino He is saying that J35 training has been started. right now as we are talking PAF is flying J35 at gilgit baltistan. strange

 

[Rational Philosopher]

Israel has been actively trying to sabotage Pakistan nuclear program since early 1980s, by collaborating with India. With recent Iranian conflict, they will be emboldened and can even launch joint attack from Indian territory on Pakistan. In 1980s they had stationed their figther aircrafts in India to launch attack on Kahuta. The possibility is high.
J35 will be a deterrent to Israel india joint attack.

Pre-empting the Islamic bomb: Israel’s strikes on Iran and the ghost of Kahuta - The Sunday Guardian Live

Pakistan’s contribution to Iran’s nuclearization, done mainly by A.Q. Khan’s network, delivered key technology, with controversy concerning official

sundayguardianlive.com

1980s Joint operation to attack Kahuta

You aren't aware of the global political environment currently. We are not in the 1980s. We are in 2025.

Soon the Muslim world is going to normalise with Israel starting with Syria, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Indonesia, etc. Others will follow suit. Israel realistically won't get involved in a kinetic conflict with Pakistan, this doesn't mean it won't favour India as an ally, but it also doesn't mean it wants direct conflict. It will be more like France.

Don't bother arguing. Just save this and come back to it in a year where you'll see for yourself.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

And what‘s the message?

The anchor asked whether the Defense Minister had denied plans to acquire the J-35. A retired Air Commodore with known connections to the PAF clarified that it's not a matter of ruling out the J-35 entirely. Currently, the J-35 has not been inducted into the PLAAF. It is still undergoing engine, weapon, and other testing phases. The approach is to adopt a "wait-and-see" strategy. Once the J-35 completes its initial testing, achieves stability, and resolves any issues, Pakistan will consider acquisition. In essence, the J-35 is not yet in mass production due to ongoing trials. Only after China finalizes and inducts the aircraft will Pakistan evaluate and begin negotiations for its potential induction.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Israel has been actively trying to sabotage Pakistan nuclear program since early 1980s, by collaborating with India. With recent Iranian conflict, they will be emboldened and can even launch joint attack from Indian territory on Pakistan. In 1980s they had stationed their figther aircrafts in India to launch attack on Kahuta. The possibility is high.
J35 will be a deterrent to Israel india joint attack.

Pre-empting the Islamic bomb: Israel’s strikes on Iran and the ghost of Kahuta - The Sunday Guardian Live

Pakistan’s contribution to Iran’s nuclearization, done mainly by A.Q. Khan’s network, delivered key technology, with controversy concerning official

sundayguardianlive.com

1980s Joint operation to attack Kahuta

USA not allowed Israel to staying there F35 for attack khutta, espionage will possibly by Russia in India, and don't live in your utopia and fantasy world

And you're aren't answering my question, my basic question is NAME THE ONE COUNTY THAT MANUFACTURER EXPORTED ITS DEVELOPING 5TH GEN JET BEFORE THE INDUCTION OF ITS AIRFORCE AND NAVY?

 

[MH.Yang]

I don't know how he has got confirmation from Mr. Gao

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Mr. Gao is a geopolitician, not a scholar in the military field.

His reputation stems from an interview he gave to an Indian television station in which, in opposition to the “McMahon Line”, he drew a “Mr. Gao Line” along the Ganges River, claiming sovereignty north of the Ganges on behalf of the Government of China.

The funny thing is that his fans are against this line. Because his Weibo followers don't want Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, West Bengal ......

This joke made Mr. Gao famous on the Chinese internet.

 

[Rational Philosopher]

Najam sethi is reliable but here i dont know he is mistaken i think? @Deino He is saying that J35 training has been started. right now as we are talking PAF is flying J35 at gilgit baltistan. strange

Najam Sethi gets carried away sometimes. He believes things he reads on Twitter and they all repeat it to each other. Though sometimes his sources are correct on many things, probably gets direct information on some.

But other things he repeats what he sees online without any verification.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

And what‘s the message?

The guy being interviewed is retired Air Commodore Khalid Chishti.

He has his own YouTube channel and normally claims he has exclusive access to Pakistan Air Force, therefore, to some he's considered as an unofficial PAF mouthpiece.

On J-35, he says the following:

• PLAAF has not inducted J-35 yet.
• J-35 is going through the last stage of trial and evaluation of its production (choice of engines and missiles are being finalised).
• Pakistan has not agreed to purchase any J-35s while the aircraft is going through trials and evaluations.
• Pakistan will consider J-35 for purchase once all the different weapons have gone through test-firing and it's actual performance is reviewed against what is claimed to be it's performance.
• Pakistan is currently at wait and see stage

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Najam Sethi gets carried away sometimes. He believes things he reads on Twitter and they all repeat it to each other. Though sometimes his sources are correct on many things, probably gets direct information on some.

But other things he repeats what he sees online without any verification.

For example ?

 

[MH.Yang]

Does China need to provide you with timelines and seek your permission to start J-35 production?? Does China need to give out every possible information to people like you?? Are you Xi's nephew? What if the Chinese started production last year?? Why would Chinese Govt need to tell you this or these Chinese fanboys here??

All these Chinese fanboys here are ONLY speculating. There claim to have inside info but There have zero concrete information.

Let's put it this way, you do realize that China is having a military parade this September right? Until now, we haven't gotten the J-35 for the parade...... Now, PLAAF is ready to roll out the prototypes from a few years ago to make up the numbers.With the J-35 in this condition, do you think it's ready for export?

 

[NA71]

And what‘s the message?

No J-35 in near future....in case of any dire need .. J-20 may be an option......JF17 B4 is also a way forward......

 

[Maarkhoor]

For those who are thinking we will get J-35 with in months time are going to cry since China itself just build 7-8 aircrafts and those who are thinking we will not get J-35 are also foolish since we have spent lot of time and money on pilots training.

Some thinking about KAAN but as per my sources we are just working with them to get know how to build our own aircraft or at least full service tech for our Chinese jets.

We can't get KAAN since TAI using General Electric engine and re-export will met embargo just like ATAK helicopters.


Moral of the story is Pakistan definitely get J-35 but most probably after India induct either Russian stealth aircraft or US made which means not before 2030 or 2035.

Probably Pakistan already booked the order just like Gen.Mushraf did for J-10C but we receive these jets almost 10 years later.

 

[Jeremy]

But he is probably still more well connected with Chinese contacts then anyone else on this forum, so maybe that in itself counts for something. Serious cognitive dissonance going on with this thread. We want to pick and choose what sound sources are actualy sound and give more credibility to anon profiles on here (some of whom may not even be from the country they claim to be from) then to senior former members of the Chinese government. Bizarre......

Bro, I have to say.
Mr. Gao connects with livestreamers from all over the world almost every day. He attends various forums and interviews in different countries. His own media platform sometimes runs ads too. Some Chinese people find this off-putting. He says, "My team members also need to eat."

Haha, what he says is a mix of truth and exaggeration—some of it shouldn’t be taken too seriously.

I haven’t seen him mention when the J-35 fighter jet will be delivered to Pakistan. He doesn’t hold a government position now. In fact, Chinese officials are very cautious—they neither would nor are allowed to casually disclose such information.

Various signs suggest that it will take at least about two years for Pakistan to receive the J-35. Maybe a bit sooner, maybe a bit later.