PAF Very Own A2A Missiles [WVR, BVR & ALCM Stand off] News, Updates & Discussions

[Sipahsalar]

We need to convert hydra rockets into precision weapons like the American APKWS. All it takes is a kit. They are also very effective anti drone weapons. Can be used from air and ground.

 

[Sipahsalar]

This thread is now 15 pages, can someone please summarise if Pakistan has :

1. Tested its own WVR missile using its own or imported seeker? If yes, then when and which missile?
1.a If tested then has it been inducted already?

2. Same as 1 for BVR missile?
2.a Same as 1.a for BVR missile?

Thanks in advance!

No to all. The missiles are in planning stages.

 

[Psyko70]

It’s interesting you mentioned Meteor vs PL-15E. Let’s break it down for a moment. Meteor clearly outclasses the export variant of the PL-15 with its impressive range of over 200 km and a significantly larger NEZ. The sustained ramjet propulsion ensures that Meteor has unmatched maneuverability, making it a real headache for PAF interceptors.

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Adding to your woes, India is now going to buy additional Meteors under its 26 Rafale M order for the Indian Navy. With BNET AR onboard all IAF platforms, we dominate the electromagnetic spectrum and situational awareness. Vayulink further enhances this, ensuring seamless communication and coordination.

Not to forget, IAF has achieved cutting-edge NCW capabilities through systems like IACCS, Afnet, and now Indian Army’s Akashteer. With homegrown gems like Astra BVRAAM, IAF is setting the standard for battlefield dominance.

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• Tejas Spokesman
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• Forum: Indian Defence Forum

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Im from future, pl15 will eat indian airforce the ground between 7th may to 9th may.

 

[RajaBaja]

Hi,

You recall, that tiny glass bottle that american sec of state waved around in the UN as sample of mass destruction---resulted in the death of around 3.5 million iraqis.

" PIn pricks start wars---". Who said that --- Napoleone Bonaparte

You have any ideas about the FAAZ program? or anyone else?

I've been saying it for 2 years now, this needs higher priority because FAAZ 2 = NASAMS like system. Mass production of a cost effective yet capable LOMAD is super critical (like NASAM is based on AIM-120 C4-C5).

 

[fitpOsitive]

FAAZ-2 LR-BVR AAM R&D Project finally disclosed by GIDS. Earlier they integrated and
tested its earlier version FAAZ-I on JF-17 which never went into production,
as it was not compatible with modern missiles like PL-15 & Meteor.

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PAKISTAN's GIDS displays FAAZ BVR air to air missiles at #IDEF2023.Major thing will be FAAZ-2 with 180km range and dual pulse rocket motor engine.But here we've two versions oof FAAZ-1 with 100km range. Looks like GIDS may follow the pattern of MICA missile.FAAZ BVR Missile will have two guidance oriented versions:- Radar Guided FAAZ BVR missile- FAAZ BVR missile with Infrared Imaging seeker

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Impressive. If we increase the range to 400km then it will be more awesome.

 

[Toxic]

Impressive. If we increase the range to 400km then it will be more awesome.

Not happening anytime soon, Wasn't FAAZ 1 a SD-10 varient?

 

[PakShaheen_79]

Can someone share the news item/announcement about FAAZ-1 testing? Actually, Faaz series came as surprise to me. Also, do we have Taimoor missile in mass production?

 

[RafaleSlayer]

Pakistan should focus on Air Defense missiles and systems to make them inhouse as they are needed in huge quantities and making them inhouse would be much more affordable than buying them from abraod.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

Not happening anytime soon, Wasn't FAAZ 1 a SD-10 varient?

It’s Turkish technology not Chinese.
Please search my previous posts, I’ve shared details of the project in this forum.

Things will be more clear when we learn the details about what Pakistan has offered to Azerbaijan.

 

[RAJPUT]

Impressive. If we increase the range to 400km then it will be more awesome.

How can the first iteration of a yet to be developed product match the specs of the longest range AAM ever? The R37 has a range of 400km and it might just be the longest range AAM if not the PL-17 which has a supposed range of 300-400km. Let’s not be too excited and wait for the first prototype to be tested.

Let’s hope when it comes online, it actually is an indigenously developed product and not a painted off the shelf Chinese product even if the range is 150km.

 

[fitpOsitive]

How can the first iteration of a yet to be developed product match the specs of the longest range AAM ever? The R37 has a range of 400km and it might just be the longest range AAM if not the PL-17 which has a supposed range of 300-400km. Let’s not be too excited and wait for the first prototype to be tested.

Let’s hope when it comes online, it actually is an indigenously developed product and not a painted off the shelf Chinese product even if the range is 150km.

Rao sahab, See, in next clash, our awacs might not cross a limit of 500 km. In next clash our planes might need to fly constantly on Afghanistan. We can't say that we can't.
Btw, Pakistan must search for any radar system within Afghanistan who may be connected to Indian satellites. And of course destroy it.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Rao sahab, See, in next clash, our awacs might not cross a limit of 500 km. In next clash our planes might need to fly constantly on Afghanistan. We can't say that we can't.
Btw, Pakistan must search for any radar system within Afghanistan who may be connected to Indian satellites. And of course destroy it.

It may be possible such radars turns on only when war starts. So we should be ready with equipment that will seek and destroy any such systems with Afghanistan. So as attack from India starts the first thing we should do is to scan whole Afghanistan before doing anything, and Kaboom.

 

[RAJPUT]

Rao sahab, See, in next clash, our awacs might not cross a limit of 500 km. In next clash our planes might need to fly constantly on Afghanistan. We can't say that we can't.
Btw, Pakistan must search for any radar system within Afghanistan who may be connected to Indian satellites. And of course destroy it.

You’re right for the most part of your argument and I agree that we might need to create a strategic depth in the time of war and that too forcefully. The Indians were outclassed by our AWACS+J-10C+PL-15 combo. They know this now and hence won’t come near our borders. They will use SOW to target our aerial units before the actual war begins. We need to procure DF-17 from China or produce some alternative ASAP! India has already tested mach 8+ missile with 1500km range just yesterday. Our leadership would of course be contemplating all scenarios and let’s hope they plan hard!

 

[RAJPUT]

It may be possible such radars turns on only when war starts. So we should be ready with equipment that will seek and destroy any such systems with Afghanistan. So as attack from India starts the first thing we should do is to scan whole Afghanistan before doing anything, and Kaboom.

I don’t think that the Afghans would have been able to hide their air defenses if they had any that could target our planes or AWACS. We have had many bombing runs over the years inside Afghanistan and they never have tried to target our aerial assets. Also, ISI has infested Afghanistan deeply. They would’ve scoped them out years ahead if such a possibility existed.

 

[RajaBaja]

Rao sahab, See, in next clash, our awacs might not cross a limit of 500 km. In next clash our planes might need to fly constantly on Afghanistan. We can't say that we can't.
Btw, Pakistan must search for any radar system within Afghanistan who may be connected to Indian satellites. And of course destroy it.

Logic is nice. Afghanistan is pro-India. Those days of using Afghanistan as "strategic depth" are gone.

We are working hard on Iran and that's our best depth. In recent war, they've also witnessed who their real friends are, both Russians and Indians betrayed them badly.

Pakistani AWACS flying right on Iran's border line with approval to land in Iranian nearby airports under "emergency" are good enough for us. The Erieye and KJ-500 both will still cover 200+ KM deep inside Indian territory and the warzone is usually within a 100KM. So well covered.