Pak Army trying back door USA engagement

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Interesting article
TBF most it I knew any way
No surprises about the desperate measures to reach out to USA to get on board with them

China will never be USA no matter how hard you try for you r military elite
They are obsessed with the.usa and the west

But the west only see India in this region now
And India still drives it's own agenda.and remains close with Russia and Iran too
Ultimately it shows economic might gives you respect and clout
Not a nuclear bomb
 
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Our army does like to engage it's 'back door' where the USA is involved.

I love the part when he said your generals are trying to use British army connections to get you favours with USA
Calling the Brits the cousins of USA

It shows how far your country has fallen out of favour with USA

And also despite claiming china has your back you fear complete isolation from USA is bad thing for you ..

Worse still USA is making India a strategic ally against china
 

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I love the part when he said your generals are trying to use British army connections to get you favours with USA
Calling the Brits the cousins of USA

It shows how far your country has fallen out of favour with USA

And also despite claiming china has your back you fear complete isolation from USA is bad thing for you ..

Worse still USA is making India a strategic ally against china

The Pakistani army is pleading for cooperation in Afghanistan.

 

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I love the part when he said your generals are trying to use British army connections to get you favours with USA
Calling the Brits the cousins of USA

It shows how far your country has fallen out of favour with USA

And also despite claiming china has your back you fear complete isolation from USA is bad thing for you ..

Worse still USA is making India a strategic ally against china

You're useful until they don't need you or can't afford to carry you, that will apply to India as well. You seem to trump this whole India is the new 'brother' utopia of the USA, where as pragmatic and strategic Indian thinkers know full well they're are to be kept at arm's length. History testifies to that.
 

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I love the part when he said your generals are trying to use British army connections to get you favours with USA
Calling the Brits the cousins of USA

It shows how far your country has fallen out of favour with USA

And also despite claiming china has your back you fear complete isolation from USA is bad thing for you ..

Worse still USA is making India a strategic ally against china

It's only national interest

Let's be fair, Pakistan completely screwed the U.S.A I. Afghanistan

20 years
Thousands of u.s soldiers killed
Trillion plus wasted
Only to run out of Afghanistan

Pakistan asked for its strategic interests to be respected via a vis the indians and afghans, the U.S was blase and suffered the consequences


Now it's all done and dusted, it's only natural for Pakistans national interests that Pakistan seek positive relations across the world
 

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Pakistan asks US for small arms to achieve ‘Istehkam’

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Pakistani Ambassador to the US Masood Khan addresses a conference at the Wilson Centre in Washington DC on June 26. — Photo via X/@Masood_Khan

Pakistani Ambassador to the US Masood Khan addresses a conference at the Wilson Centre in Washington DC on June 26. — Photo via X/@Masood_Khan

WASHINGTON: Pakistan’s envoy to the US, Masood Khan, has urged Washington to provide small arms and modern equipment to the country to ensure the success of Operation Azm-i-Istehkam, a newly approved counter-terrorism initiative.

The federal government recently greenlit the reinvigorated national counter-terrorism drive, however, Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif clarified that this initiative would not be a large-scale military operation and would not displace local populations.

“Pakistan has launched Azm-i-Istehkam […] to oppose and dismantle terrorist networks. For that, we need sophisticated small arms and communication equipment,” said Ambassador Khan while addressing US policymakers, scholars, intelligentsia, and corporate leaders at a Washington think tank, the Wilson Centre, earlier this week.
 

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You're useful until they don't need you or can't afford to carry you, that will apply to India as well. You seem be trump this whole India is the new 'brother' utopia of the USA, where as pragmatic and strategic Indian thinkers know full well they're are to be kept at arm's length. History testifies to that.

And the Indians are smarter than the Pakistani Generals, as the Indians are after real hard long lived economic benefits and technology transfer that will outlive the USA interest in India.. Indians are preparing themselves better for a life post USA.

The Senior Pakistan Generals are more stupid than two piles of steaming cow-shit and can only think of the world from weapons, and aid as money and not economic growth ..

SIFC is the usual Pakistani shorterism of wanting quick cash now and not strategic planning or investment.
 

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And the Indians are smarter than the Pakistani Generals, as the Indians are after real hard long lived economic benefits and technology transfer that will outlive the USA interest in India.. Indians are preparing themselves better for a life post USA.

The Senior Pakistan Generals are more stupid than two piles of steaming cow-shit and can only think of the world from weapons, and aid as money and not economic growth ..

Snatched the words out of my mouth.
 

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And the Indians are smarter than the Pakistani Generals, as the Indians are after real hard long lived economic benefits and technology transfer that will outlive the USA interest in India.. Indians are preparing themselves better for a life post USA.

The Senior Pakistan Generals are more stupid than two piles of steaming cow-shit and can only think of the world from weapons, and aid as money and not economic growth ..

SIFC is the usual Pakistani shorterism of wanting quick cash now and not strategic planning or investment.

True all of that.
 

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And the Indians are smarter than the Pakistani Generals, as the Indians are after real hard long lived economic benefits and technology transfer that will outlive the USA interest in India.. Indians are preparing themselves better for a life post USA.

The Senior Pakistan Generals are more stupid than two piles of steaming cow-shit and can only think of the world from weapons, and aid as money and not economic growth ..

SIFC is the usual Pakistani shorterism of wanting quick cash now and not strategic planning or investment.


I guarantee that USA will and has found India very challenging as a long term strategic ally.
India is not Pakistan or indeed the UK which bows to USA needs or pressure
And it Never will
Yes we welcome quad membership
USA technology
Arms
Real time intel
Sharing weapons technology manufacturing
And Trade economically

But Indian interests will never be compromised ever
We will stick by Russia
We will build chabber port in Iran
We will pursue a diversity in trade business and military doctrine

That USA will have to live with
 

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I guarantee that USA will and has found India very challenging as a long term strategic ally.
India is not Pakistan or indeed the UK which bows to USA needs or pressure
And it Never will
Yes we welcome quad membership
USA technology
Arms
Real time intel
Sharing weapons technology manufacturing
And Trade economically

But Indian interests will never be compromised ever
We will stick by Russia
We will build chabber port in Iran
We will pursue a diversity in trade business and military doctrine

That USA will have to live with

And that is good for India - one thing you can say - with absolute certainty - is that any Indian politican - regardless of which party is in power, has a India first policy and they always leave India better than they found her.

This is not the case in Pakistan, where politicans look out for their family clan only and then Army only looks after itself and the DHA ..
 

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It's only national interest

Let's be fair, Pakistan completely screwed the U.S.A I. Afghanistan

20 years
Thousands of u.s soldiers killed
Trillion plus wasted
Only to run out of Afghanistan

Pakistan asked for its strategic interests to be respected via a vis the indians and afghans, the U.S was blase and suffered the consequences


Now it's all done and dusted, it's only natural for Pakistans national interests that Pakistan seek positive relations across the world
Stop kidding yourself
They will not look at your interests for one second
USA wants India onboard As per the clip
Pakistan has lost USA and the west in general who only see a rising powerful India
For USA it's about china
For the West including your brother islamic countries it's the Trade potential

Your interests and dispute with India will not concern Washington or Europe or Saudi etc
 

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Stop kidding yourself
They will not look at your interests for one second
USA wants India onboard As per the clip
Pakistan has lost USA and the west in general who only see a rising powerful India
For USA it's about china
For the West including your brother islamic countries it's the Trade potential

Your interests and dispute with India will not concern Washington or Europe or Saudi etc

It's already happened

We would not tolerate India In Afghanistan

However the old afghan Republic was intent on using India against Pakistan, this was unacceptable to Pakistan and we attempted to get the U.S to act
The U.S was more confident about it's own issues

This in essence forced Pakistan to act and in the end the Afghan Republic collapsed and the U.S, India, NATO all left after 20 years of efforts d lost investment

Neither the U.S, not the west, nor anyone wants to replace a China with a delusional India.
Just like they want India to control China, their is a vested interest In ensuring Pakistan can keep a loaded gun pointed towards Indias head
 

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