Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm
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Dr khan
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Buffer zone is only solution..we need to go and ask turkey how they did it
Dr khan
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Probably like turkey create a militia focused on northern alliance and work out a solution with them.naturally speaking northern alliance cam be convinced ro Accept durand line
Enemies and friends aren't comstant..we have seen how taliban have switched to accept hinduvata..
Enemies and friends aren't comstant..we have seen how taliban have switched to accept hinduvata..
Assyrian209
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We all know they want back down, simply because TTP has now assimilated completely in Taliban
Pakistan will now need to do complex surgery to dteach them which at minimum first require
1- Taliban openly accepting durand line and never talking or any one of them talking about this
2-banishing leaders
If they refuse which they certainly will
Then we have two options
1- status quo, i.e let Pakistani men die as cannon fodder in attacks
And blame it on PTI and judiciary ()
2- create a buffer zone and ask their to high commonioner to leave the country (declare them terrorist), china will obviously follow suit and probably india wil be the only country left to support them
Close of all road connection and create a buffer zone of 30miles like turkey did..buffer zone can be both declared like turkey did or undeclared where any taliban is Targeted via drones if they come near the boarder
The taliban might escalate further, which risk toppling the afghan govt to isis but question is whether Pakistan wants to die slowly or fix it self. Pakistan need to prepare an alternative to Taliban in backyard may be figure out away for foreifn troops peacekeeper troops to return
Pakistan is a strong nation and a country that has build-up it´s base for the last 80 years and that is 80 years of legacy hence Pakistan has alot to lose here.
While the Talibs have little to lose in comparison they have been in war for the last 50 years and if another wave of war hits they will certainly not be the bigger losers.
I also keep seeing some deluded bravado talk like create a buffer zone, take Wakhan corridor etc etc or chop down the Taliban leaders etc etc, Taliban is not a puppy to play with but in reality it is a vicious dragon that can burn you and itself down like a bomb. You simply cannot bluff the current Islamic emirate of Afghanistan while Pakistan can easily intimidate in any other nation definitely but just not them.
You may ask why? Mullah Omar was the man who chose to fight the US and NATO based on Islamic and Afghan traditions in regards to how to treat your guests. They told him we have no interest in you or your country but hand over AQ and Osama Bin Laden and his answer was simple I will never hand him unless we use Islam courts in a muslim country basically finding them unclean to hand a believer over.
That same story of why this war began appeared in the hadith 1400 years ago and he was not mentioned by name but the reason way the war started was mentioned saying to a foreign army asking for their wanted people while saying to them by Allah I won´t hand them over and thus the battle began.
His son is the defense minister of Afghanistan Mullah Yaqoob and the one who chose to reply against the Kabul strike and basically he is the true power-broker in Afghanistan.
Not a man to bluff and also people don´t realize the concept of getting trapped in war but majority of them realize when they are in the middle of it and never learn from it.
Example why do you think it was so difficult to stop the Gaza-Israel war? Because Israel was trapped and needed a win and couldn´t exit just like that hence they were trapped, and now look at Ukraine where both are trapped, the US didn´t quit Afghanistan because they were trapped.
It is easier for someone to dance their way into an eternal war but exiting is nearly damn impossible and extremely hard.
My country has been thru 14 years of war and believe me you don´t want this for yourself, your descandants and their descandants. Days will turn into weeks and weeks into months and months into years and years into decades.
Learn from the recent conventional conflicts
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Hakikat ve Hikmet
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Wise words of caution. Better to defend from border you control and the local population that stands with you. I have always said it’s with the support of the local population along the border that Pakistan will be able to blunt any attack the Afghans or TTP make. The map should be viewed along tribal lines and the tribes of the erstwhile FATA will help defend the border, for their own sake, first and foremost, as long as they have their economic needs met by the Pakistani federal and provincial governments.
Rational Philosopher
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1. Promoting your side of the narrative
2. Boosting morale
3. Establishing deterrence by showing a strong will to defend yourself
4. Sending out a message
It's not about flexing at all. There are many practical reasons but to see those you'd need to leave your immature and childish mindset. Flexing is when you shoot down Rafales in enemy airspace. Pakistan has never shied away from larger powers and won't be bullied by smaller ones either.
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May be its extension related.
Exped-33
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No, but they can be crippled. Like they were from 2015 to 2020. But the PTIs, Gen Faiz and Gen Bajwa's policy gave them another chance to regroup, rearm and reengage Pak forces.
Aggregate
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Well, I don't pretend to know who is killing them but they have a lot of infighting. For all we know some internal faction might be taking advantage of the situation.
That said, Taliban are a huge risk and liablity to Pakistan at this point. If not today, they will be a part of a 2-Front war tomorrow, its only a matter of time. Pakistan does not want Taliban, neither do US, Iran, Tajikistan, Tukamanestan, Uzbekistan & China/Russia would also not prefer them if they had the chance. Pakistan can do better with Northen Alliance at this point. They are pi**sed off at India for siding with Taliban and also, they do not care about Durand line, as they want nothing to do with Pashtuns.
That would be far better for Pakistan than anything the Taliban can bring, from daily attacks in Pakistan, to opposing Durand line, to allying with India, to becoming a part of a 2 Front war.
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Ghaznavi101
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Nada so far, nothing on the Afghanistan side too. Even anti Taliban sources have nothing to show for.
Besides some AI videos on X, sounds like it was a drill for the Bagram base takeover for the Americans.
The backfire, we'll witness it within couple of weeks.
It was good to see the Taliban humiliated and made realize that Pakistan is an enemy not an ally.
Night Memory
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This is the latest update from Chisti:
2 drone strikes on the chief kutta of hell. 2nd is suspected to be fatal since theres no trace of him either in hospitals or anywhere else. Earlier it was suspected that he has been severely injured but no one has been able to locate any hospital related info.
Markhor should send the kill team and get the job done in case hes still lying somewhere on a death bed.
2 drone strikes on the chief kutta of hell. 2nd is suspected to be fatal since theres no trace of him either in hospitals or anywhere else. Earlier it was suspected that he has been severely injured but no one has been able to locate any hospital related info.
Markhor should send the kill team and get the job done in case hes still lying somewhere on a death bed.
gamaji
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I have no idea what you are talking about. You cannot compare 9th May attacks on the state with any action by any other party.
I am not here to defend patwaris or blame youthias. I want any and everyone who violates the law of the land must face the long hand of the law.
You can have arguments with patwaris, I cannot care less.
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