Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

[Fatman17]

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Zalmay Khalilzad’s Sudden Visit to Kabul Raises Eyebrows

The Ink on Pakistan-Afghanistan Doha Agreement had even not dried, that Zalmay Khalilzad lands in Kabul.

Ever wondered what his interest in is visiting Afghanistan at this time?

He has come to get pulse of Taliban on recent developments and give them some advice on keep the pot boiling.

He got alerted on possibility of Pakistan and Afghanistan reaching an understanding to resolve their issues peacefully.

He is infact doing India's bidding in Kabul. He is there to ensure that Muttaqi delivers whatever he agreed during his visit to India.

Sources have informed, he has asked Taliban not to touch TTP at any cost and deflect Pakistan's demands by putting exorbitant demands of their own which are unacceptable to Pakistan.

Now keep watching developments in coming days. Keep an eye on talks in Istanbul. If you see Taliban going back on their commitments, do remember Khalilzad visited Kabul.

Never trusted him. He also reports to US besides India.

 

[A1Kaid]

Pakistan handed over hundreds of dead Taliban/TTP bodies to the Taliban at the end of the war. Sure enough some of them were holding American M-16s with trijicon scopes.

I saw some of the photos. Confirmed.

 

[Khansaheeb]

Where exactly does Islam say that? What about provinces?

How do you set the geographical bounds by which you define the area (countries) as Muslim?

In Islamic teachings, especially those derived from the Qur’an and Sunnah, the concept of Muslim unity (ummah) is emphasized — that Muslims are brothers and sisters in faith, ideally forming a united community that transcends ethnic or national divisions. Verses such as:

“Indeed, this nation of yours is one nation, and I am your Lord, so worship Me.”
— Qur’an 21:92

reflect that ideal of unity.

 

[kimjongun]

The security of our airbases should be increased by 3x..these ttp bitches have done a lot of damage to our inventory..The mahran base attack,masroor base,kamra and what not....they will probably try again to do something like this...we should be attentive.

 

[r3alist]

Islamically there should be no lines as both countries are Muslim.

Where exactly does Islam say that? What about provinces?

How do you set the geographical bounds by which you define the area (countries) as Muslim?

Then islamically, I hope you do not use your passport

I don't think at this stage anyone should be trying to give Islamic legitimacy to the Taliban

 

[Signalian]

I had a nasty fight with my next door neighbour who happens to be a afghan. After a lot of hair putting we landed a few good blows on each other. He gave me a nose bleed while I knocked one of his teeth out.

I am saying all this to show you the gravity of the situation that this silence from the Saudi Arabia is criminal. I a Pakistani was attacked and they didn't even manage a clear statement. I knew the moment this defence pact was signed that this was not worth even the price of the paper it was printed on. Where were Eurofighter where were F-15s where were......

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American equipment requires permission from USA/Pentagon for the respective country to allow forces of other countries to use it. For British equipment, other countries forces can use it for the defence of the respective country. For Russian and Chinese equipment, no such agreement exists AFAIK.

E.g.

1. After Turkish Coup, TuAF asked for F-16 pilots, so PAF pilots volunteered but USA stopped the request and stated that USAF will provide F-16 pilots to TuAF.

2. PAF pilots piloted Syrian Mig-21 (Russian) against Israelis.

 

[Signalian]

So the Afghan FM was in India where India GIFTED AMBULANCES to Taliban. Now all of a sudden there was news on Indian SM handles that Pakistan was supplying "Missiles" to Khalistan Sikhs.

This got me thinking - HAS INDIA GIVEN MISSILES TO TALIBAN??? If I have to take a guess - they might be Anti-aircraft SAMs.

which missiles to Sikhs and which missiles to Taliban ?

 

[Signalian]

You want f 15s to fight your Afghan neighbour ?

F-15Es can carry double (almost) the ammunition carried by F-16 and have superior Radar but comparable targeting pods.

 

[Signalian]

JF-17 is enough

I wish but then again PAF deployed F-16s.

 

[Toxic]

I wish but then again PAF deployed F-16s.

WDYM you wish? Do you not think they are a enough?

 

[Signalian]

And why not?

What sort of allies are these if we can't get a Saudi bombing campaign for an imaginary fist fight on a forum

A bit of guess work. PA protects Mecca and Medina shareef, where as Americans protect the rest of KSA.

PA protects holy cities as PA is Muslim Army therefore can be deployed freely at holy sites and can thwart Isarelis if Israelis attempt to blackmail/pressurize KSA militarily. USA protects KSA against Iran and Iran backed factions, which Pakistan will not do, as seen in Pakistan's alienation from Yemen war officially.

 

[Signalian]

WDYM you wish? Do you not think they are a enough?

Against Afghanistan, F-16s and drones were deployed for strikes by PAF. Whats your opinion on this ?

 

[Signalian]

Pakistan handed over hundreds of dead Taliban/TTP bodies to the Taliban at the end of the war. Sure enough some of them were holding American M-16s with trijicon scopes.

I saw some of the photos. Confirmed.

I tried telling the same thing in another thread. I was told M4 Rifles with thermals.

Post in thread 'K-P forms first-ever Sniper Squad for precision operations in high risk areas'

Oct 22, 2025

What about Thermal drones ?? Only Thermal drones can change the course of battle against terrorists. In most ambushes terrorist occupy high grounds then start raining bullets on convoys. Cheap DJI drone surveillance can remove lot a risks.

Every TTP terrorist has:
1 x M4 assault rifle with NAO standard scope
1 x Thermal sight.

FC and PA soldiers dont have individual thermal sights. The Type-56s (Chinese AK47) that they carry doesnt necessarily have scope even.

Drones could have inbuilt thermal sensors, otherwise they can be guided if ground team have thermal sights.

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[Toxic]

Against Afghanistan, F-16s and drones were deployed for strikes by PAF. Whats your opinion on this ?

JF-17s have been deployed in the previous airstrikes so idk what you are trying to say? F-16 shouldn't be used in airstrikes?

 

[Signalian]

Quick picks​

وجعلناهم أئمة يهدون بأمرنا وأوحينا إليهم فعل الخيرات وإقام الصلاة وإيتاء الزكاة وكانوا لنا عابدين​

"And We made them leaders, guiding (mankind) by Our Command, and We inspired in them the doing of good deeds, establishing prayer, and giving Zakat; and they were devout to Us." (21:73)

Refers to prophets like Hazrat Ibrahim and others, appointed by Allah as just leaders to guide their people through divine commandments. It underscores that true leadership comes with responsibility to uphold righteousness, worship, and charity. The leadership here is portrayed as a sacred trust, emphasizing devotion and moral integrity.

فَبِمَا رَحْمَةٍ مِّنَ اللَّهِ لِنتَ لَهُمْ​

"So by mercy from Allah, [O Muhammad], you were gentle and kind to them." (3:159)

Revealed shortly after the Battle of Uhud, this verse highlights the Prophet's leadership style characterized by gentleness, forgiveness, and consultation. Despite hardship and some companions' errors in battle, the Prophet chose mercy over harshness, encouraging unity and mutual support among his followers.

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا أَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُوا الرَّسُولَ وَأُولِي الْأَمْرِ مِنكُمْ
"O believers! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you." (4:59)

This verse addresses the Muslim community regarding obedience to God, His Prophet, and those vested with leadership, provided their authority aligns with divine law. It was revealed to maintain social order and emphasize legitimate leadership, rejecting tyranny or unguided rebellion.

إِنَّ اللَّهَ يَأْمُرُكُمْ أَن تُؤَدُّوا الْأَمَانَاتِ إِلَىٰ أَهْلِهَا وَإِذَا حَكَمْتُمْ بَيْنَ النَّاسِ أَن تَحْكُمُوا بِالْعَدْلِ
"Indeed, Allah commands you to render trusts to whom they are due and when you judge between people to judge with justice." (4:58)

This injunction combats corruption, nepotism, and injustice. Believers are entrusted to fulfill obligations faithfully and judge fairly, which means that leadership requires integrity and accountability as essential components of governance.

وَشَاوِرْهُمْ فِي الْأَمْرِ
"And consult them in the matter." (Quran 3:159)

Also revealed around the time of the Battle of Uhud, this verse commands the Prophet to consult his companions in affairs, highlighting collective leadership and the importance of involving trusted advisors and community members in decisions, promoting shared responsibility.

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Plenty of others that could also be construed for this. Point being - there are clear guidelines that are applicable.

For e.g. on the subject of "free borders"
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لا تَدْخُلُوا بُيُوتًا غَيْرَ بُيُوتِكُمْ حَتَّىٰ تَسْتَأْنِسُوا وَتُسَلِّمُوا عَلَىٰ أَهْلِهَا...

"O you who have believed, do not enter houses other than your own houses until you ascertain welcome and greet their inhabitants..."

This was revealed in Medina, these verses reflect broader social ethics that also impact leadership conduct including respect for others’ privacy, mutual respect, and proper social decorum are fundamental for just leadership and governance as modeled by the Prophet. But then I could also state this applied to the borders of nations and crossing them.

Yar islamiyat ki classes TTA and TTP ko bhi de do. The religious fanaticism is destroying Pakistan.