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[Metal 0-1]

meray pakistanio, we have to stop this cope- nothing was hit and it is what it is, our attack was pretty pathetic and yiha's could have been shot out of the sky with a slingshot.

That's exactly what a indian would say....

Jarvis pull up the images of S-400 batteries reduced to atoms....

 

[Master Chief]

Specifically, the Pakistani side pointed out that enemy losses were achieved by exploiting flaws in Indian intelligence, which had attributed the missile a range of around 150 kilometers when in fact it reaches 200 kilometers. This allowed long-range strikes against enemy pilots who were completely unprepared.


Furthermore, Pakistani officials emphasized that the country had successfully established an extensive network of ground, air, and space-based aerial surveillance sensors

Exactly right.

And yet, some Pakistanis keep entertaining the enemy's machinations by suggesting we should give in to their demands for "evidence"!

Every reveal has a cost.

We have ALREADY lost a bit of an edge that we clearly enjoyed on 7th May.

Next time they will be better prepared for us, as would inevitably be the case.

We do not need to provide ANY further evidence to them. Best to laugh off their ululations.

 

[CallSignMaverick]

frankly, you and your OSINT have shot themselves in the foot!

evidence is forward looking, you and your OSINT are arguing vehemently over images which were taken almost 2 years back?!!!

how is that evidence?!!


your evidence is eating is itself!


re. runway colour?!!! dude, have your eyes checked up! look for changes before and after (beside the colour!)

The right image is mostly the same as the left one, except the significant colour difference. Again, if a missile/rocket would've exploded it would've left a mark. Or if it was a penetrator, a high resolution image would've shown that as well.

I don't remember what specifically PAF DGAO has claimed of hitting at Udhampur coz all media sites including RadioPK claim the airbase was destroyed. And idk if he mentioned the dates the images were taken. There wasn't any mention afaik.




And since PAF says it was a loitering munition/killer drone strike, they would be having videos of it. They are free to share.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

The damage can not be ascertained without a clear image from the followings days in May - move on.

I get your point!

damaged and broken minds/eyes have a very particularly unique way of looking into things and behavior (Social!)

 

[Ak01]

That's exactly what a indian would say....

Jarvis pull up the images of S-400 batteries reduced to atoms....

yeah okay im indian you got me mate, im actually a RAW agent. Just came back from an assignment in Karachi...

 

[TAC]

So you think that you have got hold of a straw? Finally.
Kuch to mila.

The tweet claims Apple picture showing camouflage nets in Mar 25. And now it says that the building is covered by tarps.
Before jumping on to this information with joy, did you check the Apple satellite image? I had a look at it and the entire building was covered in green colour nets even in that picture.
That’s the issue with fanboys. They seek joys of success without any hard work.
Take a pause buddy, visit those websites and have a look at those pictures.
You would yourself backdown.

Second point - How do you know the nature of any of those buildings? Even if we ASSUME that there was a strike, why would that building be occupied?
If all PAF buildings struck by IAF were magically vacant and devoid of any assets, why would that not apply to this side. Food for thought.

In any case, a building covered with a tarp is no proof of strike. It could be for N number of reasons.
You had the window to get the pictures with visible attack marks.
Please sell this chooran to your side.

This is a joke right? It’s only coping Indians like u who are forced to & are clutching at straws. Read and re read the AFM article along with all the other reputable (including Indian) sources to regain your sense of perspective. I think maybe waking up every day to reality of Indian epic humiliation has distorted your sense of reality. O and go count up how many Ra-fails u still got flying.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

meray pakistanio, we have to stop this cope- nothing was hit and it is what it is, our attack was pretty pathetic and yiha's could have been shot out of the sky with a slingshot.

the question will then be why was our attack pathetic? could we have done better and if so with what and why we didnt chose that option? and if we dont have capability then what are our short comings? your analysis in any above probable course?

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

A noob question - Is there a possibility China tested its 6G powered EW/ ECCM system during the skirmishes?

I won't be surprised if they did for it was an opportunity that hardly cones.....

 

[Yasser76]

This is a joke right? It’s only coping Indians like u who are forced to & are clutching at straws. Read and re read the AFM article along with all the other reputable (including Indian) sources to regain your sense of perspective. I think maybe waking up every day to reality of Indian epic humiliation has distorted your sense of reality. O and go count up how many Ra-fails u still got flying.

From now on, just reply

"BS001, BS021, BS022, BS027"

 

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[Ak01]

the question will then be why was our attack pathetic? could we have done better and if so with what and why we didnt chose that option? and if we dont have capability then what are our short comings? your analysis in any above probable course?

we just dont have enough missiles lol

indians used:
brahmos
scalps
rampage
and a variety of LMs

Pak used:
Fatah
Yiha
allegedly CM400s

Raad, Babur, KaGem, H4/H2, a HUGE arsenal of LMs were all missing.

Even some fatah launchers did not release whole salvos- we just dont have the stockpiles for a proper attack, atleast not in the context of BuM.

I would be shocked if we had more than a few hundred cruise missiles in stock

 

[BonPlan]

Also, none of the PL15 were found "Intact"

sorry, no. read that : https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/...inas-pl-15-missile-debris-found-inside-india/

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

we just dont have enough missiles lol

indians used:
brahmos
scalps
rampage
and a variety of LMs

Pak used:
Fatah
Yiha
allegedly CM400s

Raad, Babur, KaGem, H4/H2, a HUGE arsenal of LMs were all missing.

Even some fatah launchers did not release whole salvos- we just dont have the stockpiles for a proper attack, atleast not in the context of BuM.

I would be shocked if we had more than a few hundred cruise missiles in stock

Do you think it was because we have gained nuclear deterrence so we dont need any conventional deterrence now? and did we now got the idea that we need to produce more for conventional deterrence too now? the rocket force establishment is because of the same conventional deterence need?

 

[Ak01]

Do you think it was because we have gained nuclear deterrence so we dont need any conventional deterrence now? and did we now got the idea that we need to produce more for conventional deterrence too now? the rocket force establishment is because of the same conventional deterence need?

the biggest takeaway, also the most dangerous one is that the nuclear deterrence is no more.

It is a bluff and nothing else. Pak def relied too heavily on Indians believing our nuclear thresholds were seriously low, but the reality is it is and was a bluff, which they called.

i think @JamD can talk to this more, esp in terms of production capacities of pak orgs for cruise missiles etc, but, now we see so many new missile projects in pak, maybe theyve realised they need to build a proper scalable and producable fleet of missiles that can be expended like the indians can expend

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Do you think it was because we have gained nuclear deterrence so we dont need any conventional deterrence now? and did we now got the idea that we need to produce more for conventional deterrence too now? the rocket force establishment is because of the same conventional deterence need?

The way I see it, having fewer missiles is less of a problem than having an impotency.