Pakistan Army Small Arms

[Zarvan]

Pakistani private companies can do wonders if given proper training, plus equipment, or at least loans to start their companies. In a year or two, you will have great options. Far better performing than the crap being churned out by POF.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Pakistani private companies can do wonders if given proper training, plus equipment, or at least loans to start their companies. In a year or two, you will have great options. Far better performing than the crap being churned out by POF.

They are good at copying weapons, they will also need R&D.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

AK derivatives, they are more widely in use than G3 now.

My personal choice, Bren 3 derivatives (for our calibres), but the way we burnt them last time….

The russian built, Belarusian assembled rpk'ish, VSK100 being the more recent ones .. taking a dump of the cheap type56 from norinco.

 

[Toxic]

Not trying to jinx it but we finally might get a new rifle soon.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Not trying to jinx it but we finally might get a new rifle soon.

Whatever Pakistan decides, do NOT go with 6.8.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Whatever Pakistan decides, do NOT go with 6.8.

most likely 7.62×51
let see how it goes , i do not have high hope seeing how many times they have failed to replace G3

 

[Yasser76]

Whatever Pakistan decides, do NOT go with 6.8.

Pakistani rifle requirements are so different to the West. Where Western armies need top consider high rates of ammo use, confined spaces in IFVs and fighting in Urban areas, Pakistan army still has long range, low fire rate light infantry engagements in the deserts of Thar, the hills of KP and high altitudes of Northern Areas.

Controverisial I know, but maybe they just worked that a replacement to the G3 would simply not be worth the incremental benefits it would bring?

Even many Western SF are sticking with the G3 for long range work/patrolling.

 

[Toxic]

Pakistani rifle requirements are so different to the West. Where Western armies need top consider high rates of ammo use, confined spaces in IFVs and fighting in Urban areas, Pakistan army still has long range, low fire rate light infantry engagements in the deserts of Thar, the hills of KP and high altitudes of Northern Areas.

Controverisial I know, but maybe they just worked that a replacement to the G3 would simply not be worth the incremental benefits it would bring?

Even many Western SF are sticking with the G3 for long range work/patrolling.

Pakistani soldiers when they are forced to carry a 5KG rifle with Shoulder breaking recoil and one that can't mount any attachments for hours on end because Yasser76 on PDF said that a new rifle is not worth the Increment benefits:

 

[Par 5]

Pakistan needs a locally designed rifle system that will fit the combat profile of our soldiers in the field. Anything else is simply bound to fail in the long run

 

[Toxic]

Pakistan needs a locally designed rifle system that will fit the combat profile of our soldiers in the field. Anything else is simply bound to fail in the long run

We tried and failed miserably, the new rifles in the tests are based on or direct copies of existing Western rifles but made in Pakistan by local companies, this isn't a bad thing btw, just look at how well Turkish clones of existing rifles are doing.

 

[Par 5]

We tried and failed miserably, the new rifles in the tests are based on or direct copies of existing Western rifles but made in Pakistan by local companies, this isn't a bad thing btw, just look at how well Turkish clones of existing rifles are doing.

Well, we need to try again and again until such time we are successful. If POF is unable to do the job, outsource it to the private sector. The only issue is the local development of the barrel which is difficult considering the low quality of metal. That may be solved by importing the barrel and making the rest locally.

Look how Israel and Turkey developed their own rifles in a short period of time.

 

[Toxic]

Well, we need to try again and again until such time we are successful. If POF is unable to do the job, outsource it to the private sector. The only issue is the local development of the barrel which is difficult considering the low quality of metal. That may be solved by importing the barrel and making the rest locally.

Look how Israel and Turkey developed their own rifles in a short period of time.

It is being out sourced, private companies are front of the new competition.

Also our problem is mainly handing POF a task it was incapable doing, the only thing POF knows how to make is G3s, when you tell them to design a new rifle they will make it as much of a G3 as possible.

 

[Yasser76]

Pakistani soldiers when they are forced to carry a 5KG rifle with Shoulder breaking recoil and one that can't mount any attachments for hours on end because Yasser76 on PDF said that a new rifle is not worth the Increment benefits:

Easy on the passive aggression and give some basic respect to others if you want it. I suggested the powers that be may not have thought it wort, there are many cimpeting requirements for funds. Hopefully that brain of yours may grasp this concept but I will not hold out much hope.

 

[Par 5]

It is being out sourced, private companies are front of the new competition.

Also our problem is mainly handing POF a task it was incapable doing, the only thing POF knows how to make is G3s, when you tell them to design a new rifle they will make it as much of a G3 as possible.

World has moved on from a G3, as should we

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

The world has moved on from this yet it can still be found on the battlefield: