Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[hasssanali8998]

India updated Notam

India updates its NOTAM again with a slight increase in Occupied Jammu and Kashmir. In the previous update the NOTAM was to start at 09:30pm PST 12Nov and end at 11:30pm PST 14Nov but new NOTAM will now come into effect at 04:00pm PST 12Nov and end at 06:00pm PST 14Nov.

 

[hnn]

Another chapter ...how Qataris and Saudis pressured us for Abhinandan's return in 2019

The repatriation of Abhi-dumb-done was not due to any specific international pressure but to uphold the Third Geneva Convention - that states the release and repatriation of POWs at the end of conflict without any delay. His capture became public immediately and Pakistan didn't have any choice but to uphold the Convention - if Pakistan had chosen to not repatriate him it would have brought international ire under the jurisdiction of the convention and considered a war crime by the state

The Third Geneva Convention doesn't apply to spies it's why Kul-bro-shun is still in custody.

 

[Be dazzled]

Very true. It doesn’t revolve around Pakistan either.

Indian Bhakts - No fighters lost.
Pakistani Bhakts - Fatah was devastating.

Ours is backed with evidence and tangible facts yours is just thin air. As I said. Evidence.

 

[Kharral]

Mud slinging with an idiot has only one outcome. And we all know, who is the idiot here.
That’s why no leader of standing has never engaged with him on any of his claims.

Wrong, He said some incendiary stuff about Pakistan in his first tenure & within no time Imran Khan fired back & basically told him to shove it where the sun don’t shine. He settled down & behaved very well.

What’s stopping your 56inch guy to do the same ? What’s stopping any of your Macho Men from replying back to him ? You are the most vocal people in the world & yet here you are unable to utter a word against him.

 

[Kharral]

Due to the probable new constitutional amendment the PAF is unlikely to respond as it did immediately after IAF weapons release and smoke some Rafales.
The order will come from the new chief of defense force so don't hold your breath.

Or it could be the other way around & PAF is told to pre-empt those planes/vectors before they unleash next time ?

 

[hnn]

Due to the probable new constitutional amendment the PAF is unlikely to respond as it did immediately after IAF weapons release and smoke some Rafales.
The order will come from the new chief of defense force so don't hold your breath.

Not necessarily. This ammendent and change of command structure is a double edged sword. Where in theory it promises greater integration of the armed forces, it also cues up new practical challenges. It would depend on the harmony of the commanders. For example, in May, we witnessed high harmony amongst the respective commanders and that resulted in prompt response. The success of this model depends on the implicit power structure within this reorganization. If the power is delegated then CDF only has to communicate the "scale" of response he wants - what would be interesting to see is if this reorganization is limited to only command structure or if the entire military is reorganized into "integrated battle teams" (similar to IDF BGT model) - if it's the latter, then any future response will not only be swift but more effective as well (if integration is done right that is)

 

[hnn]

The article primarily focuses on IAF deciding to go for additional 114 Rafales - more a piece of news than an Opinion.

The additional 114 Rafales is a proposal sitting with Indian Defence Ministry for further approval. However, I personally don't think they will approve that many units, perhaps they'll approve ~ 60 Rafales, now that India has already placed an order with US (GE) for an additional 113 engines for Tejas MK-1. The new order is set to be delivered b/w 2027-2032, and the previous order of 99 engines out of which 95 are still pending. Moreover, the tech and expertise US is going to lend India to develop the AMCA - it may be the case that Indian Defence Ministry won't approve that many Rafales and instead will focus on getting equipment from US (to also try and make them happy to get favorable trade tariffs from Trump)

 

[Olympus81]

Maybe taking out the police commissioner in IoK, bombing Uri brigadier HQ, arms depo in Beas up in flames, sighting a few examples was a figment of reality to Indian fanboys.

 

[Vkdindian1]

Maybe taking out the police commissioner in IoK, bombing Uri brigadier HQ, arms depo in Beas up in flames, sighting a few examples was a figment of reality to Indian fanboys.

Police commissioner may be a high ranking military officer in Pakistan but not in India. If Police commissioner was really targeted then I do salute military astuteness of those who planned it. Claiming this as a success may not be the best way to claim a military success.

Rest all is as hearsay as Indian claim of shooting down your AWACS and other fighters. If you had any idea about what a hit on an ammunition depot looks like, you wouldn’t have allowed yourself to make a juvenile claim like that.

 

[Ibbi32]

The additional 114 Rafales is a proposal sitting with Indian Defence Ministry for further approval. However, I personally don't think they will approve that many units, perhaps they'll approve ~ 60 Rafales, now that India has already placed an order with US (GE) for an additional 113 engines for Tejas MK-1. The new order is set to be delivered b/w 2027-2032, and the previous order of 99 engines out of which 95 are still pending. Moreover, the tech and expertise US is going to lend India to develop the AMCA - it may be the case that Indian Defence Ministry won't approve that many Rafales and instead will focus on getting equipment from US (to also try and make them happy to get favorable trade tariffs from Trump)

I don’t think so iaf has been hyping up rafale for so long and claiming that its some sort of wonder weapon that they didn’t lose against Pakistan that they will likely double down on it if only to convince themselves. Iaf currently has no financial restrictions so them placing such a large order in hopes of some domestic production is likely

 

[NA71]

Look at this ....he says Rafale ney karishma kiya hy......Do Indians have any shame left?

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آپریشن سندور میں رافیل کا تجربہ بہت ہی شاندار رہا — طیارے نے غیر معمولی کارکردگی دکھاتے ہوئے اپنی صلاحیتوں کا بھرپور مظاہرہ کیا۔ بھارتی وزیرِ دفاع #india #pakistan

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[Kharral]

Wrong.

IK lost his job and is sitting in a 5 x 5 cell since then.

It is not about 26” or 56”. No world leader has engaged with him on his shenanigans. He keeps barking all the time but ignored by them. Has Putin or Xi responded directly to him even once? They also must be scared of him as per your theory.



“Ours” as well “your’s” are very broad terms. As far as I am concerned, I am not contesting loss of 4 fighters. I do disagree with monthly addition to that number, running at 8 aircraft as of Nov end.

As far as your mention of “ours”, there is zero evidence of success of Fatah. Now, don’t start behaving like fanboys and their amateurish efforts. Be a Think Tank.

Wrong !!!

I just gave you an example of IK shooting back at Trump & making him behave.

IK lost his job to primarily an internal coup. Trump had nothing to do with it.

It has everything to do with 26,36 or 56. Everyday Mr Trump wakes up & Double Dicks Modi without fail. He’s been at it for 6 months now & Modi doesn’t dare utter a word. Trump’s harassment of Modi has gotten so bad that Modi has gone against his very nature & not turned up International summits, where Mr Trump is expected to turn up as well.

Trump has not said anything of the sort against Putin & Xi or their respective countries, & whenever he has mouthed off a little, he’s had an equal response.

What good is your 4 trillion economy if your whole state is unable to utter a line or put out a tweet against Trump ?

 

[Kharral]

Look at this ....he says Rafale ney karishma kiya hy......Do Indians have any shame left?

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آپریشن سندور میں رافیل کا تجربہ بہت ہی شاندار رہا — طیارے نے غیر معمولی کارکردگی دکھاتے ہوئے اپنی صلاحیتوں کا بھرپور مظاہرہ کیا۔ بھارتی وزیرِ دفاع #india #pakistan

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You mean they had some to begin with ?

 

[Olympus81]

Police commissioner may be a high ranking military officer in Pakistan but not in India. If Police commissioner was really targeted then I do salute military astuteness of those who planned it. Claiming this as a success may not be the best way to claim a military success.

Rest all is as hearsay as Indian claim of shooting down your AWACS and other fighters. If you had any idea about what a hit on an ammunition depot looks like, you wouldn’t have allowed yourself to make a juvenile claim like that.

Rest is all heresay?

There is photo evidence to back the claims of a dead commissioner terrorist, Uri HQ blown up, flames in Beas, arms depo in Udhampur in flames.

But yes, continue with your cope.

 

[NA71]

You mean they had some to begin with ?

Yar kis dhatai say jhoot bol raha hy ....shandaar experience tha....bc 4 confirmed hits and up to 10 damaged ko karishma bol raha .....mf