Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Yasser76]

He is a nobody masquerading as a Journalist.

You just described 75% of Pak Media

 

[Mobius]

So operation Sindoor was planned by a police officer?
That explains many things, specially the performance

I'll be honest here bro. Our performance was far from optimal too IMO. The Indians are so incompetent and we should have taken FULL advantage and drilled them hard during Sindoor 1. The "Restraint" was a big mistake especially when we had their air force grounded and keeping out of reach in the East. Why Pak took this approach is beyond me, but I think we should have done far more damage to India.
The dog was down and out and our restraint has given them another chance to regroup and come back stronger with much lessons learnt.
If they do try another mis-adventure, I hope there is no holding back.

 

[Yasser76]

I'll be honest here bro. Our performance was far from optimal too IMO. The Indians are so incompetent and we should have taken FULL advantage and drilled them hard during Sindoor 1. The "Restraint" was a big mistake especially when we had their air force grounded and keeping out of reach in the East. Why Pak took this approach is beyond me, but I think we should have done far more damage to India.
The dog was down and out and our restraint has given them another chance to regroup and come back stronger which much lessons learnt.
If they do try another mis-adventure, I hope there is no holding back.

Agree with you, but post Sindoor we earned a lot of goodwill and military credibility. Gave Trump a win and he appreciated. Diplomatically we outplayed India.

Was it worth it in exchange for restraint? Still not sure, but we certainly came out of it as the more credible and mature party

 

[Psyko70]

Agree with you, but post Sindoor we earned a lot of goodwill and military credibility. Gave Trump a win and he appreciated. Diplomatically we outplayed India.

Was it worth it in exchange for restraint? Still not sure, but we certainly came out of it as the more credible and mature party

I'll be honest here bro. Our performance was far from optimal too IMO. The Indians are so incompetent and we should have taken FULL advantage and drilled them hard during Sindoor 1. The "Restraint" was a big mistake especially when we had their air force grounded and keeping out of reach in the East. Why Pak took this approach is beyond me, but I think we should have done far more damage to India.
The dog was down and out and our restraint has given them another chance to regroup and come back stronger which much lessons learnt.
If they do try another mis-adventure, I hope there is no holding back.

Hello sir,

We did well. Truth is most of Pakistani after 71 and Kargil war thought Pakistan will do nothing. we did more than wrong mindset most Pakistani's had.

Plus, there are reports of indian forces in IJK getting artillery pounding from Pakistan, our strikes inside India did a lot of damage. That is only reason India stopped attacking. From most Pakistani's thinking and rationalizing through previous 71 War and Kargil performance to "Pakistan armed forces did really well". Giving credit to only airforce is unjustified. Operation "Banyan ul Marsoos" did something only then India stopped otherwise Air force grounded the Indian airforce but India still attacked. So, overall our Army and Air force both did good.

Pakistan Cyber attacks was another thing we discuss little about.

 

[RocketLaw]

I think it’s time to close this thread - enough discussions over 8-9 months, no worry Pakistan Army is taking care of the borders or after election complete in India.

Let’s focus on the ECONOMY first - that’s the top priority if we want to reach our FIRST TRILLION dollar GDP more development and muscles!

 

[Mobius]

Agree with you, but post Sindoor we earned a lot of goodwill and military credibility. Gave Trump a win and he appreciated. Diplomatically we outplayed India.

Was it worth it in exchange for restraint? Still not sure, but we certainly came out of it as the more credible and mature party

So with regards diplomacy and credibility, I very much agree. We came out on top internationally. However, my argument is around the Sindoor 1 timeline.

- When we could have shot down many more jets, we should have.
- We should have responded far sooner and not waited days to retaliate with missiles.
- Perhaps a mini beating in Kashmir too.

International diplomatic pressure was always going to come to stop the war, but what we did before then could have given Randia a broken face instead of a bloody nose so to speak.

 

[Baibers_1260]

Possibly. Hard to achieve complete element of surprise these days though

Pakistan has added to its satellite surveillance capabilities since May 2025 These are :

• HS-1: Pakistan's first hyperspectral satellite was launched in October.
• PRSS-2, AIRSAT 03, and AIRSAT 04: These remote-sensing satellites were also launched on October 19, 2025, via a CAS Space Lijian-1 rocket

Though these are intended for civilian use they undoubtedly have a military surveillance role as well.
Additionally, both the USA and China are keeping a close watch on the India Pakistan border and will warn Pakistan of an impending strike.
China's satellite surveillance monitoring of Indian military activity, and sharing of intelligence with Pakistan was confirmed during a press conference by Indian Vice-Chief of Army Staff Lt. General Rahul Singh,
Lt. General Rahul Singh described how surprised the Indian DGMO was, when during the talks with his Pakistani counterpart, the Pakistani DGMO asked for a particular Indian asset to be moved further away from the border. According to Lt.General Rahul Singh such detailed intelligence via satellite surveillance was beyond the then capabilities of Pakistan and could only have come via intelligence sharing with China.

 

[Mobius]

Hello sir,

We did well. Truth is most of Pakistani after 71 and Kargil war thought Pakistan will do nothing. we did more than wrong mindset most Pakistani's had.

Plus, there are reports of indian forces in IJK getting artillery pounding from Pakistan, our strikes inside India did a lot of damage. That is only reason India stopped attacking. From most Pakistani's thinking and rationalizing through previous 71 War and Kargil performance to "Pakistan armed forces did really well". Giving credit to only airforce is unjustified. Operation "Banyan ul Marsoos" did something only then India stopped otherwise Air force grounded the Indian airforce but India still attacked. So, overall our Army and Air force both did good.

Pakistan Cyber attacks was another thing we discuss little about.

Absolutely, credit to our armed forces! BUT we should have done more to give the adversary a SOLID message to not FCUK around again. We need to stop the restraint approach and go on the front foot. As they say Attack is the best form of defence, especially against a large adversary like India.

 

[Aggregate]

I'll be honest here bro. Our performance was far from optimal too IMO. The Indians are so incompetent and we should have taken FULL advantage and drilled them hard during Sindoor 1. The "Restraint" was a big mistake especially when we had their air force grounded and keeping out of reach in the East. Why Pak took this approach is beyond me, but I think we should have done far more damage to India.
The dog was down and out and our restraint has given them another chance to regroup and come back stronger which much lessons learnt.
If they do try another mis-adventure, I hope there is no holding back.

We have to remember that we do not have unlimited ammo, planes, missiles, supplies, etc to risk a large scale war. Even in the worst case scenario for India, they would still outlast us by weeks. A fine balance of deterrence is enough and that is what we probably went for.

Deterrence is good upto a level, but it turns into escalation if you go too far. I think we kept a very fine balance between not wasting resources, not riling India too much and still deterring them to the point that they had to go for a ceasefire, which continues to date. If they try anything again then I'm sure even stronger deterrence will be established.

I remember Iran Israel war where everyone was complaining why Iran is not shooting hundreds of Missiles per day, but Iranian army had dozen other things in mind that they had to retain their capabilities for and they just did enough to force Israel to fall back and not try anything again. Unless you are a country like the US attacking country like Afghanistan, things have to be kept in a calculated balance. there will always be another time to teach India a lesson if they keep behaving like this.

 

[Psyko70]

Absolutely, credit to our armed forces! BUT we should have done more to give the adversary a SOLID message to not FCUK around again. We need to stop the restraint approach and go on the front foot. As they say Attack is the best form of defence, especially against a large adversary like India.

Hello sir,

I dont think we actually restrained. It was just a statement. We did what we could. If we really could have shot down more planes we would have. 8 planes is no joke and what is this we decided to kill 8 planes only ? in real conflict that happened I think our jets fired missiles and 8 got kill rest just flee away.

the fatah missile strikes and artillery strikes in Kashmir region did not seem to be restrain. How can more than 3000 artillery rounds fired in indian fob's in Kashmir a restraint.

Along with shutting down there grids.

Its beyond me.

With that performance, I still dont think long war is anyway favorable to Pakistan. India on other hand can recover faster. Yes we can fight but its total war means total economy collapse.

 

[Mobius]

We have to remember that we do not have unlimited ammo, planes, missiles, supplies, etc to risk a large scale war. Even in the worst case scenario for India, they would still outlast us by weeks. A fine balance of deterrence is enough and that is what we probably went for.

Deterrence is good upto a level, but it turns into escalation if you go too far. I think we kept a very fine balance between not wasting resources, not riling India too much and still deterring them to the point that they had to go for a ceasefire, which continues to date. If they try anything again then I'm sure even stronger deterrence will be established.

I remember Iran Israel war where everyone was complaining why Iran is not shooting hundreds of Missiles per day, but Iranian army had dozen other things in mind that they had to retain their capabilities for and they just did enough to force Israel to fall back and not try anything again. Unless you are a country like the US attacking country like Afghanistan, things have to be kept in a calculated balance. there will always be another time to teach India a lesson if they keep behaving like this.

A very valid and good point. Although shooting down another 5-10 gets was possible and would have cost us a few million and India far more. We had the capacity to do more and should have without crossing the line. When your enemy is down, you should have the last say. It's about signalling and messaging that Pak will not take unilateral action against it lightly. The cost of doing such would be high.
With regards to supplies, all the more reason to fill our depots to the bursting point so that this shouldn't be a worry going forward. We also have reliable allies who would happily keep the supply up to damage their mutual enemies.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

We have to remember that we do not have unlimited ammo, planes, missiles, supplies, etc to risk a large scale war. Even in the worst case scenario for India, they would still outlast us by weeks. A fine balance of deterrence is enough and that is what we probably went for.

Deterrence is good upto a level, but it turns into escalation if you go too far. I think we kept a very fine balance between not wasting resources, not riling India too much and still deterring them to the point that they had to go for a ceasefire, which continues to date. If they try anything again then I'm sure even stronger deterrence will be established.

I remember Iran Israel war where everyone was complaining why Iran is not shooting hundreds of Missiles per day, but Iranian army had dozen other things in mind that they had to retain their capabilities for and they just did enough to force Israel to fall back and not try anything again. Unless you are a country like the US attacking country like Afghanistan, things have to be kept in a calculated balance. there will always be another time to teach India a lesson if they keep behaving like this.

it does not work that way!


another perspective would be,


'can an adversary loose despite having all the top tech. weapons'


loss not highly likely but significant damage, at minimal cost very likely and probable!
(in our scenario, bec. enemy is'nt tech. laden!)

for instance, IN, sink carrier, and you win!

 

[maverick]

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out of 1.4 Billion people, is he the only logical indian left ? dont get me wrong, he is a patriot but a realistic logical person

 

[RescueRanger]

Lol... a country full of mouthbreathing retards:






Check the dates...

 

[maverick]

Hello sir,

We did well. Truth is most of Pakistani after 71 and Kargil war thought Pakistan will do nothing. we did more than wrong mindset most Pakistani's had.

Plus, there are reports of indian forces in IJK getting artillery pounding from Pakistan, our strikes inside India did a lot of damage. That is only reason India stopped attacking. From most Pakistani's thinking and rationalizing through previous 71 War and Kargil performance to "Pakistan armed forces did really well". Giving credit to only airforce is unjustified. Operation "Banyan ul Marsoos" did something only then India stopped otherwise Air force grounded the Indian airforce but India still attacked. So, overall our Army and Air force both did good.

Pakistan Cyber attacks was another thing we discuss little about.

yes delivering 140,000 tons to 160,000 tons of ammo in 6 hours using artillery, Fateh1 and 2 during "Banyan ul Marsoos“ was an incredible feet, sending shivers down indians spine..
this amount of TNT delivered was done USA and allies during opening day of operation desert storm but in 24 hours..