Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Relax buddy, nothing is gonna happen... at least not in recent future, they are still licking their wounds and trying to buy more stuff and trained on it.

Reminds of the Russian "cows in the cockpit" comment....

As per Jinnah, they don't learn anything new or unlearn what they've already learnt....

As per the Quran-i Kerim, all of their faculty and heart have been sealed, and barriers (mental blocks) have been erected all around them.....

*Lest should we forget: Shirk is the worst Tejavvuz on the Izzet-i Ilahi with no recourse to Keffara; hence, defeating them at the battlegrounds has the highest probability.

 

[Berseker]

Modi needs to keep appearance of india as superpower so he needs a real victory which the world can pat him on the back for. Declaring victory at home and no I ne else believing it hurts his reputation so he will try something again soon

May Allah destroy them in their plans.

 

[Starlord]

Reminds of the Russian "cows in the cockpit" comment....

As per Jinnah, they don't learn anything new or unlearn what they've already learnt....

As per the Quran-i Kerim, all of their faculty and heart have been sealed, and barriers (mental blocks) have been erected all around them.....

*Lest should we forget: Shirk is the worst Tejavvuz on the Izzet-i Ilahi with no recourse to Keffara; hence, defeating them at the battlegrounds has the highest probability.

I think India will use LM and drones in next skirmish, they found some success with the drones, and they will avoid sending large number of fighters, unless they are confident that they out-stick Pakistan's PL-15's. But just like India, Pakistan is making new strategies, they wont be sitting and relaxing, we have seen Pakistan getting new systems and AD's. more drones and LM/ anti drone systems are inducted, But i think right now given the region's issues/wars, I believe Indians will be avoiding a major fight with Pakistan, maybe close to next Indian elections whenever that is.

 

[flyingorca]

 

[White Privilege]

Next time there should not be any wait for days . it should start at once when indians do aggression.
Jab hum ne marna hi ha tu izat se ur indians ki dhulai kr k maren tu zara bhi dukh nahn

That is what needs to happen, quid pro quo plus and waiting around to see what Indians do is just not going to cut it now as Indians can absorb light losses easily. We must implement this, the moment ordnance lands on Pakistani soil, Indians will receive a $100 million shock, in the form of a precise attack on their economic nerve centers and prized production plants, designed to inflict business downtime as well as valueable equipment destruction. This is called a disembowelment strike , bleeding the enemy severely and surely.If Indians try to press on their mistake, then that can go to $200 million and so on......

 

[Aghor Warrior]

I think India will use LM and drones in next skirmish, they found some success with the drones, and they will avoid sending large number of fighters, unless they are confident that they out-stick Pakistan's PL-15's. But just like India, Pakistan is making new strategies, they wont be sitting and relaxing, we have seen Pakistan getting new systems and AD's. more drones and LM/ anti drone systems are inducted, But i think right now given the region's issues/wars, I believe Indians will be avoiding a major fight with Pakistan, maybe close to next Indian elections whenever that is.

India is unlikely to rely entirely on large fighter formations in a future conflict. It can lean heavily on stand-off weapons instead. The roughly 40 Su-30MKIs modified to carry BrahMos can provide a substantial long-range strike capability, while Jaguars can employ Storm Shadow and Rafales can employ SCALP.

Once Tejas enters the picture in larger numbers, this becomes even easier because it can integrate a broad range of Indian cruise missiles, glide bombs and laser-guided weapons. Until then, the existing 40 modified Su-30MKI fleet should be sufficient for a significant portion of the stand-off strike role—even with around 50% availability, that would still leave roughly 20 aircraft available.

Upgrading the entire Su-30MKI fleet for BrahMos may not be economically practical, given the nearing retirement of the aircraft and the increasing induction of Tejas. The focus will be on getting the most capability from the platforms already modified while transitioning toward newer platforms.

 

[Yasser76]

India is unlikely to rely entirely on large fighter formations in a future conflict. It can lean heavily on stand-off weapons instead. The roughly 40 Su-30MKIs modified to carry BrahMos can provide a substantial long-range strike capability, while Jaguars can employ Storm Shadow and Rafales can employ SCALP.

Once Tejas enters the picture in larger numbers, this becomes even easier because it can integrate a broad range of Indian cruise missiles, glide bombs and laser-guided weapons. Until then, the existing 40 modified Su-30MKI fleet should be sufficient for a significant portion of the stand-off strike role—even with around 50% availability, that would still leave roughly 20 aircraft available.

Upgrading the entire Su-30MKI fleet for BrahMos may not be economically practical, given the nearing retirement of the aircraft and the increasing induction of Tejas. The focus will be on getting the most capability from the platforms already modified while transitioning toward newer platforms.

Recent wars have proved the above incorrect. Yes, stand off weapons can be effective but

1) They can be defated
2) They are expensive
3) You need a lot of them

Reason why world is moving towards cheap loitering drones.

Let me give you an example about your "might" SU-30 Brahmos combo and having 20 in the air.

PAF Bholari (one of the smaller bases) has 28 HAS.. Add its main hangers, control tower, runway, and air defence assets. It will need around 50 missiles alone. No assuming some do not get through, some miss their target or some malfunction, to be safe you will need say around 75 missiles. 20 SU-30MKIs will need to fly almost 4 times, and that is assuming many do not get wiped out in the air or on the ground like we have seen.

You maths is simply not....mathing....

 

[Aghor Warrior]

Recent wars have proved the above incorrect. Yes, stand off weapons can be effective but

1) They can be defated
2) They are expensive
3) You need a lot of them

Reason why world is moving towards cheap loitering drones.

Let me give you an example about your "might" SU-30 Brahmos combo and having 20 in the air.

PAF Bholari (one of the smaller bases) has 28 HAS.. Add its main hangers, control tower, runway, and air defence assets. It will need around 50 missiles alone. No assuming some do not get through, some miss their target or some malfunction, to be safe you will need say around 75 missiles. 20 SU-30MKIs will need to fly almost 4 times, and that is assuming many do not get wiped out in the air or on the ground like we have seen.

You maths is simply not....mathing....

So far India has used air-to-surface missiles and precision strike weapons launched from Su-30MKIs, Jaguars, Rafales and Mirage 2000s in Balakot and Operation Sindoor.

India also has truck mounted surface-to-surface missiles. These truck mounted launchers can move close to pakistan border, launch missile and relocate quickly. They can also be escorted by fighter aircraft and attack helicopters when required. Yes, such systems have risks, but they remain an option

Beyond missiles, artillery remains a major factor. artillery is cheaper than cruise missiles, difficult to intercept, highly mobile and can rapidly change positions. India has decades of experience and infrastructure for deploying artillery along the Pakistan border.

With long-range rocket artillery and precision-guided munitions, artillery is increasingly bridging the gap between traditional guns and missiles.

Personally, I think India should consider a dedicated missile-carrying bomber-type platform like B1 Lancer to launch large salvos of cost-effective weapons such as glide bombs, Nirbhay-class cruise missiles, and kamikaze drones. Expensive systems like hypersonic/Supersonic cruise missiles should also be carried but be reserved for the highest-value targets like GHQ or National Command Authority