Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Gripen9 said:
You have to preempt it. As soon as there is warning, you go on the offensive. We cannot be doing "we have a right to respond" and manage the escalation ladder....
You destroy TELs and main CM depots preemptively and launch your own LM and go as far deep as possible.
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It's just that you're basically talking about all out war.. for what? Because some people will get blown up in India? Not for territory or water but basically a Bollywood item song for their massive population that lives in its own bubble.

We need to find some way to erase this new normal these idiots are trying to build with us. They've lost their minds.
 
Starlord said:
I think India will use LM and drones in next skirmish, they found some success with the drones, and they will avoid sending large number of fighters, unless they are confident that they out-stick Pakistan's PL-15's. But just like India, Pakistan is making new strategies, they wont be sitting and relaxing, we have seen Pakistan getting new systems and AD's. more drones and LM/ anti drone systems are inducted, But i think right now given the region's issues/wars, I believe Indians will be avoiding a major fight with Pakistan, maybe close to next Indian elections whenever that is.
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I have already talked about this, even Sqn. Ldr Ali Hamza talked about my comment about the expected very large scale use of drones and missiles by the indians next time at 3:20 in the following video



Pakistan needs to re-establish deterrence or we will suffer dearly if a protected war drags on.....
 
Aghor Warrior said:
The 12 new Su-30MKIs ordered by the Indian Air Force (contract signed in December 2024 with HAL) are built to the full “Super Sukhoi” standard.

The Super Sukhoi (also called Super-30) is a major upgrade programme planned for existing Su-30MKI aircraft (initially about 84 jets, with potential for more). Under this upgrade, the aircraft will receive:

- Indigenous Virupaksha GaN-based AESA radar (developed by DRDO/LRDE)
- New indigenous mission computer
- Upgraded Indian electronic warfare (EW) suite
- Improved Indian IRST sensor
- Better overall avionics and sensor fusion

These changes will significantly improve seamless integration of Indian weapons such as the Astra family of air-to-air missiles.

Regarding the engine:
The Super Sukhoi aircraft (and the new 12 jets) will continue to be powered by the Modified AL-31FP engine (license-produced by HAL). This is a completely new engine designed by DRDO.

India has increased the indigenous content of the AL-31FP (currently around 54%) and is incorporating Indian technologies — including materials and single-crystal blade know-how originally developed under the Kaveri programme — to improve reliability, service life, and performance. However, the basic design philosophy remains the Russian-origin AL-31FP design
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All very impressive but without actual deliveries to the IAF of what use exactly? When are they going to be delivered by HAL?
 
Panzerkiel said:
Something to laugh about....

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“As far as air defence part is concerned, we have evidence of one long-range strike … along with that five fighters, high-tech fighters between F-16 and JF-17 class, our system tells us,”

Indian Air Force Chief Amar Preet Singh, Oct 2025.

Sir, not merely "5x fighters" as per your infographic, but very explicitly, 5x HIGH-TECH fighters, as per the honourable Air Force Chief.
 
Its time we make same type of documentary that we made after operation swift retort, and make drama serial on true events. majority of indian population watch Pakistani dramas i wish someone will take initiation and show the world what actually happened.
 
Usually I take this with a grain of salt.....but what Ahmad Hassan says in this Video is worth taking note for the Pak military.
Means the Americans/West is back to supporting the indians again......

 
Starlord said:
I think India will use LM and drones in next skirmish, they found some success with the drones, and they will avoid sending large number of fighters, unless they are confident that they out-stick Pakistan's PL-15's. But just like India, Pakistan is making new strategies, they wont be sitting and relaxing, we have seen Pakistan getting new systems and AD's. more drones and LM/ anti drone systems are inducted, But i think right now given the region's issues/wars, I believe Indians will be avoiding a major fight with Pakistan, maybe close to next Indian elections whenever that is.
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There is one tactical observation that I made during the May conflict & had perceived it even before that, I am not sure if I should mention on the forum here. Luckily the Indian side didn’t try it during this conflict & hopefully the Army would have a counter ready in the next conflict if the Indians finally do try it out.
 
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Why India Cannot Fight With Pakistan For Next 10 Years? | Maj Gen Samrez Salik | Haider Hayat Khan​

 
our side's problem is the "wait and the time of our place and choosing to revenge" type cuck bullshit, bcaz we won't have that option in future. The WEST is already back at supporting india (selling them everything) and that includes the americans.

Pakistanis are idiots and naive in thinking the west won't side with india soon. The entire Zionists clan wants to destroy Pakistan and its people and cripple its defense and make it fall into chaos and anarchy. Our so-called leadership needs to wake up and realize that theyre on their own against the indian attack. They're preparing hard and will come for revenge soon.

Did the F16s get upgraded already? NO.
Did we get new weapons for the F16s? NO
What have the americans given to PAF after May 2025?? Whats their massive numbers doing in Pakistan and at their fortress embassy (specially when theyre not even giving much Visas). They're in Pakistan to SPY on everything and gathering intel for israel and india etc.

Did we get more J10Cs and latest weapons from China? I havent been following those threads, but with our economy, writing is on wall. We have our own people saying we can't afford war, so the bullshit about ceasefires and complying with american demands and shit.

The point is, that the enemy will NOT spare our weakness and our apathy and our ignorance as they want blood and are coming for it. The next response needs to be totally devastating for them, otherwise it can be for us.

This WAR has only paused, there is NO stop button....that should be very very clear.
 
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