Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Penny wise. Pound foolish. Russia has 15 million sq km. Adding a small amount of land in Eastern Ukraine does nothing for Russia. When 40 million Ukraine citizens are in NATO/EU it would look like foolish
Are you even in your senses? You’re talking like losing a single inch of a country’s land doesn’t matter. Losing territory is not a minor thing — it’s a national humiliation. Even if I accept your argument that Russia lost strategically, then tell me — did China lose too? No, China gained big time from this entire war. So either way, the West lost.

And let’s be real — 20% of Ukraine’s land is not a small area. It’s more than the entire territory of many countries! Don’t downplay that as if it’s nothing.



Also, this war has frozen NATO expansion. No other Eastern European country is going to rush to join NATO now, because they’ve all seen what happened. Everyone thought joining NATO meant guaranteed protection. But Ukraine got all the promises, billions in weapons, and still — they lost land, lost lives, and got no boots on the ground.

This is a huge defeat, and you need to understand that — not just militarily, but psychologically and strategically
 
Where did I say we lost an Erieye idiot?

My pint is we can easily replace them if lost, PAF basically built them and modified them from scratch after Kamra attack. IAF cannot do the same with Phalcons
Don't pay any attention to these Bakhtoras, just as they got a bloody nose on 27.2.2019 and they had to create the F-16 narrative, this time they are bleeding from every hole so naturally expect much more from them including the destruction of Lahore seaport .
The very fact is on the morning of 7th May, their airforce was virtually grounded .
 
Bro no one is disagreeing on that.

But you have scammers and thieves running Pakistan. You cannot have a good economy with professional criminals and thieves with dual passports running govts.
In my lifetime Pakistan has never had a good economy. My point was a broader point of having the security through economy, economical growth. full stop.
 
Are you even in your senses? You’re talking like losing a single inch of a country’s land doesn’t matter. Losing territory is not a minor thing — it’s a national humiliation. Even if I accept your argument that Russia lost strategically, then tell me — did China lose too? No, China gained big time from this entire war. So either way, the West lost.

And let’s be real — 20% of Ukraine’s land is not a small area. It’s more than the entire territory of many countries! Don’t downplay that as if it’s nothing.



Also, this war has frozen NATO expansion. No other Eastern European country is going to rush to join NATO now, because they’ve all seen what happened. Everyone thought joining NATO meant guaranteed protection. But Ukraine got all the promises, billions in weapons, and still — they lost land, lost lives, and got no boots on the ground.

This is a huge defeat, and you need to understand that — not just militarily, but psychologically and strategically

Losing 40 million citizens who were your Slavic cousins is a bigger loss

" No other Eastern European country is going to rush to join NATO now, because they’ve all seen what happened. "

Name East European countries that are not part of NATO
 
What do you guys make of Indian claims of successfully attacking Pakistani nuclear bases (assets) and subsequent earthquakes of 4.0 and 5.7 that were registered in different locations in Pakistan?
an attack on a nuclear site, nuclear weapons storage is the start of nuclear war. You fire them before you lose them.
 
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Losing 40 million citizens who were your Slavic cousins is a bigger loss

" No other Eastern European country is going to rush to join NATO now, because they’ve all seen what happened. "

Name East European countries that are not part of NATO

  1. Austria – Constitutionally neutral
  2. Switzerland – Military neutrality
  3. Ireland – Maintains a neutral foreign policy
  4. Serbia – Military cooperation with Russia, no NATO plans
  5. Bosnia and Herzegovina – NATO partner, not a full member yet
  6. Kosovo – Not fully recognized internationally, cannot join NATO yet
  7. Moldova – Constitutionally neutral
  8. Ukraine – Close NATO partner, but not a full member yet
  9. Belarus – Ally of Russia, not pursuing NATO membership
  10. Armenia – Member of CSTO (Russia-led military bloc), not in NATO
  11. Azerbaijan – NATO partner country, not a full member
  12. Georgia – Strong NATO aspirations, not yet a member
  13. Cyprus – EU member, not in NATO due to conflict with Turkey
 
oes it matter if you shot 5 Indian combat aircraft and Modi gets away with breaking Indus water treaty ?


what makes you think he got away?

it will take years to build dams to block water to Pakistan ... and we will simply blow it away...

like we blew your airbases... and then you begged for a ceasefire.
 
In my lifetime Pakistan has never had a good economy. My point was a broader point of having the security through economy, economical growth. full stop.
No one is disagreeing with the idea of a needing a good economy. But you cannot achieve it while money launderers and thievs are running govts.
 
Some times a night is followed by another day.



The US opposed and stopped any fencing for years. Pretty sure you can find dozens of articles on it still. The Afghan Government opposed it as well.



Old footage of a PAF Mirage V crash. The nose with the pitot tube is unmistakable.



That's a Pakistani. His name tag says Adeel.


Watch carefully
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what makes you think he got away?

it will take years to build dams to block water to Pakistan ... and we will simply blow it away...

like we blew your airbases... and then you begged for a ceasefire.
Blowing a dam is not easy. It is tens of thousands of tons of concrete
 
  1. Austria – Constitutionally neutral
  2. Switzerland – Military neutrality
  3. Ireland – Maintains a neutral foreign policy
  4. Serbia – Military cooperation with Russia, no NATO plans
  5. Bosnia and Herzegovina – NATO partner, not a full member yet
  6. Kosovo – Not fully recognized internationally, cannot join NATO yet
  7. Moldova – Constitutionally neutral
  8. Ukraine – Close NATO partner, but not a full member yet
  9. Belarus – Ally of Russia, not pursuing NATO membership
  10. Armenia – Member of CSTO (Russia-led military bloc), not in NATO
  11. Azerbaijan – NATO partner country, not a full member
  12. Georgia – Strong NATO aspirations, not yet a member
  13. Cyprus – EU member, not in NATO due to conflict with Turkey
12. Georgia will not be allowed into NATO. Russia already bombed them and NATO was in complete radio silence and ignored Georgia when that happened.

No political party in the West can win elections by promising to send more aid and $$ to Ukraaine. We just saw this in Canada. Ukraine was hardly mentioned because no party wants to touch it during an election campaign.
 

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