Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

safriz said:
Which missile is this ?

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These look like the debris of Indian Astra missile?
You San see the seeker in the second video?
 
Oscar said:
The claim is plausible but likely overstated. S-400 batteries have redundancies, especially at the regimental level. Taking out a Fire Control Radar (FCR) and Target Acquisition Radar (TR) is serious but doesn’t guarantee both batteries are useless for months. If the FCRs were unique to each battery, then two could be degraded. However, TRs are often shared or have backups. Damage to those systems disrupts operations but doesn’t necessarily mean total loss unless spare assets or radar mobility are constrained. So, degradation yes, total loss uncertain without more specifics.
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Who claimed total loss? But they've been disabled/ degraded to a good degree for weeks or even months considering delayed deliveries.
 
Gripen9 said:
Dare I say, this may prompt US to offer Pakistan F16V or Blk70 just to keep its hook in otherwise it is at risk of completely losing its sphere of influence....
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Yes, there is that, but even a V F-16 with just the C-8 or D AMRAAM may no longer make the grade if we are in the world of J-10Cs/PL1-5s and in the future J-35s and maybe PL-17/21 in the future.
If the US offered us V F-16s it would take 3-4 years for delivery. They would not be cutting edge by then. This was something they should have done 5-6 years ago but they were too busy courting India. I can assure you PAF plans will now be at least thinking about KAAN if not actively trying to get it. May well come with Pakistani or Turkish long range missile options too.
15 years ago we had to make sure we kept Chinese personnel off F-16 bases. Now it will be the case of keeping US personnel of all major PAF bases that will inevitably have J-10C, JF-17Cs or J-35s....
 
Mighty_Dragon_Strike said:
hindutva military leaders are saying Modi should have delayed cease fire after attacks on pak airbases, forcing pak. to strategically them, so that India can then play victim to invite USA to decimate pak ... my assessment
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The Bharati strategists plan and propose, the US policymakers dispense and dispose.....
 
Sultan Baybars said:
m.economictimes.com

Shiv Sena wants Turkish firm out of airport in Mumbai amid India-Pakistan escalation

Shiv Sena opposes Turkish business in Mumbai. They allege Turkey aided Pakistan in attacks against India. Murji Patel led Shiv Sena workers to Mumbai airport officials. They demanded the cancellation of CelebiNAS Airport Services India's ground handling contract. Shiv Sena claims the Turkish...
m.economictimes.com m.economictimes.com

Mumbai Airport forbids Turkish firms from doing business.
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So Mumbai airport will end up paying them the full amount until the end of contract for breaching it? What about the handing over to the second contractor? Who will do the bidding in the period of 10 days? What a delusional ducking nation it is. Cow piss is killing their brain cells.
 
Wood said:
We can certainly disagree, but I believe that at least some—though not all—within Pakistan’s establishment see asymmetric tactics as a necessary hedge. From their perspective, it's perhaps the only way to compel India to treat the Kashmir issue as a live dispute rather than a settled matter. It’s a cold, strategic calculation—and it doesn’t necessarily mean Pakistan is always actively seeking conflict.


What’s ironic is that India, in reacting forcefully to these tactics and seemingly willing to set aside its broader strategic interests to respond, has unintentionally validated the very strategy it's trying to shut down. In a strange way, the asymmetric playbook has worked too well—just not in anyone’s long-term interest.


Meanwhile, people across the subcontinent remain fixated on the scoreboard—who's up, who's down—without recognizing the direction this is all heading. And that’s the tragedy: the path we're on leads to ruin, and when it arrives, it won’t care who thought they were winning.
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Here come another brainwashed apologist for Indian failure.

This was a new historical moment in large scale intense real air combat. The collective west and indians are playing down or skewing what really happened there but the rest of the world know the truth. Indian air force was slaughtered, the French was publicly and badly embarrassed and the Russians also slightly mumbled.
 
Distant_Observer said:
Exactly. It was a random murder crime in the middle of nowhere. India is a country of 1.4 billion people. How many people get murdered there in a day?

They attacked a country over this and killed its civilians? And they don't even have proof? Madness.

Western media just went with it. Notice their tone in the beginning, it was almost aloof when it came to pakistan's perspective. Accusatory. They were forcing Pakistani diplomats to rebuff allegations instead showing sympathy towards Pakistani civilians.

Their tone and language only changed when they realised India got wacked in the first night and they were just randomly targetting anything with their drones while indian airforce is grounded. Impotent and weak just like this entire narrative.
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They were all in on this especially US. Remember in the beginning they were distancing themselves from war even when India struck Pakistan.
But as soon as we gave them a bloody nose they realized it didn't go to plan and jumped in to save their boy.
 
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