Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Trump has warned whoever attacks first he will cut trade ties. Which is basically a threat of sanctions.

Before it was only aimed at Pakistan. Now its aimed at India too. This is why Indians are cursing Trump on social media day and night.

There will be no war. This region needs peace and prosperity.
 
Trump has warned whoever attacks first he will cut trade ties. Which is basically a threat of sanctions.

Before it was only aimed at Pakistan. Now its aimed at India too. This is why Indians are cursing Trump on social media day and night.

There will be no war. This region needs peace and prosperity.

The Hindutva are indeed cursing Trump and the US for the reasons you mention.
 
Trump has warned whoever attacks first he will cut trade ties. Which is basically a threat of sanctions.

Before it was only aimed at Pakistan. Now its aimed at India too. This is why Indians are cursing Trump on social media day and night.

There will be no war. This region needs peace and prosperity.

Is it that simple? Cool
 
Maybe. But since the Independence in 1947, India has gobbled up Sikkim, Goa, Hyderabad Deccan, Siachen Glacier's large part, broke Pakistan into two, changed Indian Occupied Kashmir's status in 2019, just cancelled the Indus Water Treaty and is planning to use water as a weapon in concrete ways. And please note: Most of those achievements happened when the s-called 'secular', 'peaceniks' Indian Congress Party was in power, so the temptation to point the finger to a 'Hindutva' Modi should be moderated.

So what does that tell you? Maybe India is like a giant volcano which erupted in 1947 and may appear passive to everyone now but the lava keeps flowing to create new terrain and in that way no credit to be given to the volcano or the lava--it is the gravity, which is the subconsciousness of the Indian psyche which is doing the work to create the ultimate United India, the 'Akhand Bharat'. And there lies the dangers for Pakistan and a call for action in a do or die struggle.
You are absolutely right, to point out some good reasons why they are obviously no push over.

You are also absolutely right 2 point out how congress posed a more insidious challenge


But, there are differences. Much of the events that you allude to were generally people closer to the post partition generation, or one generation down, and I feel that they were a tougher breed, personally that's just my opinion. Furthermore, in comparison Pakistan has been in a perpetual state of low to medium warfare for decades .....iron sharpen's iron, and the Pakistani military establishment would have had to learn some sharp lessons since Afghanistan and the decades of American presence. In other words, they have learnt to box clever and are more psychologically accustomed to being and thinking about real actual warfare


In comparison, India has not really had to engage as much, and therefore their military establishment has in effect become bureaucratic, and self indulgently intellectual, and a persistent theme of self-congratulating on the economic heft, so I observe a clear qualitative difference between generations


Remember, at no prior point in previous conflicts were India actually considered rich. However, when you are also used in thinking about your 15% annual mutual fund return, you will therefore then think twice about losing it in a protracted war. If you meanwhore, are serious about war, you therefore will not or should not be worried about your investment portfolio.

Finally, to compound India's issues, they now have instead of a poor developing China as a potential adversary, they have a china brimming with confidence, and technological prowess, leaving India for dust. Now, therefore I wonder really is there any strategic quality, within India that they now find themselves in a position where they face a China reinforced Pakistan, a potentially China reinforced Bangladesh on the other side, and of course China itself. You never know, they might have Maldives under some control for now.
 
Political talk aimed at face saving. However, Pakistan must not underestimate the irrationality India's political leadership and should not to take the constipated looks on media goons at face value. They can create a false pretense to attack Pakistan again. Pakistan must remain vigilant.
 
If he attacks again, then Pakistan should attack military installations in that state, in this case Bihar, to show that Modi is "not winning" .. force the narrative to change so that Modi can no longer consider this as an option.
Turn Modi's own malice back on him ...

The Bihar elections keep coming up. I am not convinced that elections in one Indian state would propel Modi to escalate to such an extent with extremely dangerous, if not impossible 'returns'. So the Bihar elections can't be the factor or even the major factor, IMO.
I think Pakistan's stabilizing economy, its stabilizing politics, its growing international alliances, its ongoing and upcoming extremely hard action on internal terrorism were not welcomed by India and India had signaled in late 2024 to review the Indus Water Treaty. So, whether the Pahalgam attack three weeks ago was staged or not, it is certain that India has crossed the Rubicon for some larger, long term goals than just the elections in one India state. And I will say this as dispassionately as possible: I don't see how long term India will come out ahead; on the contrary.
 
Pakistan released a nuclear signature which the Americans immediately picked up on and intervened.

That's why Trump was saying the bombs were about to get bigger.
Who knows, there are so many shenanigans at play, there are so many other interests.

What is clear, is that attempting to probe, undermine or manipulate Pakistan's nuclear deterrent is a part of the strategic attack, well this is at least from the last episode

I have for example noticed, that even the more let's say liberal leaning media personalities are talking about how if nukes had to be used, then that's fine, that's just what has to happen, effectively just projecting no fear
 
Trump has warned whoever attacks first he will cut trade ties. Which is basically a threat of sanctions.
Before it was only aimed at Pakistan. Now its aimed at India too. This is why Indians are cursing Trump on social media day and night.
There will be no war. This region needs peace and prosperity.

Trump changes his mind more than he changes his underwear. Hahah. But I hope you are right!
 

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