Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

damn, he is alive !

prolly not for much longer, though.. and likely in diapers and on drips etc

he the original Amit Shah figure, in that solid wingman role to his PM at the time.

long live Advani Ji, but his BJP is long dead.. ab Modi Ji party hai.. which is fine, better than a granps to pa to son Italian type dynasty..

we take the less smelly option
 
Pakistan needs India more than India needs Pakistan because of the reason of existence is "Not India". Maybe Pakistan should name itself "Not India"

Btw - whats Pakistan's performance on a true blue economic, civil, political or military metric vs. India. In last 75-years, Pakistan lost half of its nation, has raging insurgencies, hasn't had a democratic government, is surviving on hand-outs and yet India is a cesspool or A,B,C...

India on the other hand hasn't lost territory, is 4th largest economy, has peace, all religions thriving, exporting brains and importing FDI...

Seriously man, whats the frame of reference here

Are you mental

India is a communal hate filled disaster zone

For the majority of the last 80 years Pakistan has been ahead of India in most quality of life indexes and that remains true today

The need for partition and separation was vital
Indian Muslims who number HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS are hardly represent in government, or parliament in India and their is a concerted attack upon their history, culture, faith and religious buildings and place names

The NEED for independence and freedom from your enemy is EVERYTHING

Pakistan is not just a state it's the independence movement of the Muslims of south Asia

Bangladesh is a free MUSLIM STATE as per partition, remember we pile axed millions of Hindus to ensure Bangladesh remained a free Muslim state


The more India turns hindutva extremist the more the need for a proper partition of India so we can separate the enemy populations


India in the last few years has been AWFUL
Lost against Pakistan in 2019
Lost against China in 2020
Lost against Pakistan again in 2025 in a conflict India started

Your delusional fantasies are becoming crazy
 
Pak will be .....

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Did Pakistan got any credible evidence of their strikes

apart from fabricated videos presented by Army from videos games and Indian news channels ?
Also their idiot ministers quoting fake news in national assembly. what a clown that minister is.

Abay bhar'way...,

Q. Have you got any credible evidence of...

- Karachi Port destroyed
- Coup against CoAS Asim Munir
- Quetta taken over
- Baluchistan Freedom
- Indian Tanks have entered Pakistan
- INS Vik-something has enteredPakistan waters
- F-16 shot down & Pilot captured.
- 2 JF-17 shot down.

M.C. tujhay BAN keya tha tou re-generate karkay wapis agaya hai.

This is what & who you are...A fabricated Nation.

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@RescueRanger @Waz
 
Did Pakistan got any credible evidence of their strikes

apart from fabricated videos presented by Army from videos games and Indian news channels ?
Also their idiot ministers quoting fake news in national assembly. what a clown that minister is.


Yep,, Indian posts and bases were roasted

They were hit repeatedly, to ensure India was unable to escalate
 
Thanks for sharing.

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Some very good points from Thomas Keith tweet :

The war didn’t end. It went dormant, quieted, not concluded. The spectrum remains live. What unfolded was not a border skirmish, but a battlefield simulation, proof that the wars of the past are dead and the wars of the future are already underway. Pakistan did not simply repel aggression. It revealed a doctrine, one rooted not in brute strength, but in signal control, electromagnetic denial, and narrative preemption. This was not a victory of jets over jets, but of latency over presence. What comes next depends on whether Pakistan completes the grid it has begun to shape, a sovereign kill web built not for escalation, but for insulation from escalation. A doctrine that doesn’t respond to attack, but erases the possibility of one ever forming.

To build this, Pakistan must stop thinking in inventory and start thinking in architecture. The first node in this architecture is a platform that doesn’t currently exist in its arsenal: a dedicated airborne electronic attack aircraft. The J-16D, China’s Growler analogue, is not a fighter, it’s an electromagnetic disruption vector. With internal jamming suites, SEAD payloads, and active radar denial pods, it is designed not to engage targets, but to delete them from the engagement sequence altogether. Without such a platform, Pakistan is forced to blind India from the ground up. With it, the grid is severed mid-air. Radar sites go dark. Targeting pods lose lock. S-400 fire control nodes dissolve before they process threat vectors. Air superiority becomes spectrum denial.

But seeing first is even more important than firing first. And in the spectral domain, the ability to see without being seen is absolute power. That is the logic of passive radar, systems like the YLC-29 or Vera-NG that detect aircraft by monitoring their own emissions, without ever transmitting a signal. These systems do not participate in war. They haunt it. Stealth fighters, jamming drones, loitering munitions, all become visible the moment they speak. Passive radar turns India’s own equipment into a liability. It completes the surveillance loop without becoming part of it. Positioned across Punjab, Sindh, and Balochistan, these passive nodes would allow Pakistan to build a network of silent vision, watching without blinking, tracking without betraying location, and seeing every platform India launches the moment it breathes.

Strategic deterrence doesn’t only come from ISR and electronic denial. It comes from forcing the enemy to think twice. Pakistan must now consider the one platform that renders naval aggression obsolete before it manifests: a hypersonic area-denial missile. A DF-17-style glide vehicle with Mach 5+ terminal velocity doesn’t need to be used. It only needs to be known. The mere presence of such a system, deployed from coastal nodes near Gwadar, Pasni, or even inland from hardened launchers, would force Indian carrier groups to remain hundreds of kilometers away. It shifts strategic calculations. It delays deployments. It creates psychological terrain. Hypersonics are not about escalation. They are about hesitation.

But wars will not be fought by capital ships alone. They will arrive in clouds: drone swarms, loitering munitions, reconnaissance UAVs, soft-kill saturation assets. India is already investing in this volume. Pakistan must answer with intelligence, AI-synchronized swarms that deceive, distract, and degrade. Domestic CH-901-style loitering munitions, or co-developed Turkish KARGU variants, must be built for not just precision strike but system exhaustion. Their job is to drain enemy attention, burn through interceptors, jam channels, and spoof early warning systems. These are not drones. They are narrative distortion fields in flight. They do not win wars with explosions. They win them by being everywhere, until nothing is trusted.

All of this requires unification. Without a tactical data link grid, a sovereign, encrypted, low-detectability mesh binding fighters, drones, satellites, AWACS, and naval assets, Pakistan’s architecture remains fragmented. The JF-17 Block III may speak, but the rest of the network must learn the language. This is not a communications upgrade, it is a doctrinal spine. One drone finds the target, another tracks, a third fires, a fourth confirms, and a fifth broadcasts the evidence. This is what fifth-generation war looks like: distributed execution, centralized perception, and signal superiority.

The orbital layer remains the least understood but most decisive domain. Pakistan’s current satellite infrastructure, Paksat-1R for comms, PRSS-1 for EO surveillance, marks only the beginning. What is now needed is a sovereign ELINT and SAR-capable constellation in low-earth orbit. This means sniffing radar signatures, tracking troop heat maps, logging comms relays, and creating a real-time electromagnetic map of both eastern and maritime theaters. Space is no longer a frontier. It is the architecture of perspective. Without it, India sees first. With it, Pakistan sees what India thinks it has hidden.

Even with all of this, J-16Ds, passive radars, hypersonics, AI swarms, orbital ISR, the doctrine collapses if the human layer is untrained. War in the spectrum is war in ambiguity. Blackouts, spoofed signals, GPS loss, cyber-disrupted comms, false telemetry, these are not anomalies. They are the norm. Pakistan must build AI-driven EW and 5GW simulation grids that train warfighters to operate in exactly this entropy. Pilots must fly into jamming, not around it. EW teams must react to signal confusion with precision, not panic. Cyber operators must exploit soft systems under informational camouflage. The new battlefield is cognitive. The margin is muscle memory.

Cyber capabilities cannot remain undeveloped. Pakistan must field offensive units capable of targeting India’s logistics chains, power grids, telecommunications, and military databases,not with brute force, but with asymmetrical digital disruption. SCADA systems, underwater cable landings, satellite link spoofing, maritime AIS manipulation, and social-engineering botnets must be brought under operational doctrine. On the defensive side, military infrastructure must be insulated from zero-day exploitation through hardened firmware, strict airgapping, and protocol denial layering. In a spectral war, attribution is often more dangerous than impact. Which is why cyber must not just be deployed,it must be deniable, repeatable, and irreversibly sovereign.

The final pieces are already within reach. Platforms like the J-35AE, stealthy, long-range, networked, transform presence into ghost logic. The KJ-500 is not just AWACS; it is airborne orchestration. The DK-10 provides mid-range denial that collapses aerial corridors without needing permanent deployments. Chinese microwave CIWS units turn drone swarms into vapor. These aren’t purchases. They’re thresholds. They’re what separate modern warfighting from strategic irrelevance. When these platforms are fused into a single kill web, tactically resilient, spectrally aware, cognitively trained, Pakistan won’t just be defending itself. It will be shaping the battlefield from the signal level upward.

India will continue to fight for visibility. More Rafales. More op-eds. More satellite photos released in the aftermath. That’s fine. Let them. Pakistan’s war is not fought in the open. It is fought in denial, of detection, of escalation, of narrative terrain. The next war will not begin with missiles. It will begin with a spectral shift, a signal drop, a silence that grows. And by the time India realizes what’s happened, the command window will already be closed.

This is obligation, not ambition. Protocol, not parity. Spectral supremacy. Sovereign 5GW. The window is narrowing.

No problem sir, thanks for reciprocating. I cannot exactly pretend to even understand most or much of his tweets, however they are food for thought.

His or hers posts on at least the last two weeks seemed to be quite insightful
 
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Thanks, the PAF will do their best.

At the next Zhuhai I suspect people will be watching the exhibits but also the weapons systems the Pakistani team is looking at. ;)
 
No tariffs by India on the US and Trump blocking US companies like Apple from manufacturing in India for the US market. Trump is undermining India’s dream of becoming a manufacturing power like China in a real way.

This is the other fallout from this conflict, the limitations on Indian growth Trump is imposing, not out of animosity towards India but to rebuild American manufacturing.

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Why would america or the west allow indian to become a global manufacturing powerhouse? america and the west don't want another China.
 
A good assessment for the ceasefire.

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What nonsense!

They are only exposing themselves one by one. First Adil Raja and now this one.
 
our jameen ka kabja is being do

by you

pleaj stop

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