Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Watandar]

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Pakistan's achilles heel is China. We are too dependent on them. If some actual national policy planners and strategists existed in Pakistan, we would invest heavily in education and expanding the economy, so that we could eventually produce everything orginally Chinese under license at home.

Similarly if there was a smart Indian in New Delhi, it will begin to patch up with China so that in 10 years time, the relationship would have grown so much the Chinese will question why they are involved in the India-Pakistan struggle. Thats the strategy Israel employed against Palestine starting in 1970s. Today no Arab except poor Yemen stands with them.

 

[RescueRanger]

Haqqani is quite useless fellow. Didnt once mentioned Indian sponsored terrorism in Pakistan.

Uncle has always been a bit of a fence sitter.

 

[baqai]

Tejas could be interceptor, or fighter escort and ground attack to be used within India. We still have a violent group of jungle commies, and some troublemakers in the north east.. marine patrol hawai coast guard duty pe bhi skte ho.

Bechara Tejas, wasn't even part of this thing and being maligned by everyone

bhai dulhan ki tanha chupaya howa hai ...

 

[Meengla]

I hope some people have finally opened their eyes to what kind of people Moeed Pirzada, Adil Raja, Imran Riaz and Siddiq Jan are. If you still can't see it, good luck to you.

I detect cults easily and had already figured out these people and their blind followers 2-3 years ago. But I am not for blocking anyone's channel in general. Besides that, they are hanging themselves by their own ropes and unraveling the cult's Gordian knot. Good for Pakistan!

 

[r3alist]

@r3alist bro,

I was not making a cheap jab in that case,

I know. Our jet fighter programme is a mess and everyone knows it.

My point was actually what I stated. Let us play to our strengths and not our weaknesses.

Regards

I think the Israeli advisors, will now be nudging and prompting India to take a similar approach, but with Western hardware. That might well be their purpose all along.

I don't know how aware or comfortable Indians are around this possibility

 

[r3alist]

Frankly i am annoyed at the line taken by foreign media from the recent war, which is all about Chinese tech and future Chinese arms sales and Taiwan!! The collaboration between China and Pakistan and the way a small country like Pakistan defied a huge power like India and forced it to stop its aggression, is being waved off The Chinese in a lab could not have pulled any of this off themselves.

I have no idea why you expect a channel like Bloomberg to to do fluff pieces to make a Pakistani audience happy

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Bloomberg, taking a big interest here.

For those, who can look beyond bullets missiles and guns with respect to defense may infer more import.

For those only thinking about bullets missiles and guns carry on....

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Indian government will not admit any loss yet is crying about China did this and that. Chinese defence system brought down 1 Indian aircraft inside India. Thats not a failure like that Indian say. S400 couldn't prevent PAF air superiority.

 

[RescueRanger]

Pakistan's achilles heel is China. We are too dependent on them. If some actual national policy planners and strategists existed in Pakistan, we would invest heavily in education and expanding the economy, so that we could eventually produce everything orginally Chinese under license at home.

These things take time, look around you all smaller nations rely on major powers. Rome wasn't built in a day, and I know the phrase "Pakistan is a graveyard of good intentions" was coined by someone who is now dead - but I am forever an optimist.

Just need to keep looking ahead and moving forward with a clear vision and goal. And need I remind you, in past conflicts it has been China who has been supporting Pakistan, the same can be said for infrastructure projects and developmental projects.

Pakistan needs political stability, cash in the kitty and good standard of education. These three things will fill many gaps in the coming years.

 

[baqai]

I detect cults easily and had already figured out these people and their blind followers 2-3 years ago. But I am not for blocking anyone's channel in general. Besides that, they are hanging themselves by their own ropes and unraveling the cult's Gordian knot. Good for Pakistan!

being a person who grew up and saw 80s and 90s of Karachi, i exactly know how and what a cult can be, heck when i was young i used to be excited and used to follow a set narrative, difference is my line always was/is Pakistan

 

[r3alist]

Uncle has always been a bit of a fence sitter.

Sir, we should not also be expecting diplomats, and the more serious thinkers to talk like the fringe PDF posters just for a sugar rush.

I am not also saying I am his fan, just that you must know how to walk and chew gum, simply as a survival mechanism. Thanks

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@r3alist

I think the Israeli advisors, will now be nudging and prompting India to take a similar approach, but with Western hardware.

Israeli, yes, French maybe, American no. There is a lot of homegrown and Russian stuff as well.

I don't know how aware or comfortable Indians are around this possibility

Extremely uncomfortable post the recent armed misunderstanding (since there was no war as such) with Pakistan. The Western powers were seen as unreliable. And the three most successful weapons systems- S400, Brahmos and Akash were all non-Western.

Regards

 

[RescueRanger]

I have no idea why you expect a channel like Bloomberg to to do fluff pieces to make a Pakistani audience happy

This. . These articles are NOT for Pakistani consumption to jump up and go YAY SHEERA! No, these are carefully curated articles for a distinct audience... Even the report of Chinese satellites, these are curated and churned out as an alarm bell but also to highlight fears of growing regional imbalance.

One thing that Pakistani's must learn to do - is learn to read "the fine print".

 

[Meengla]

being a person who grew up and saw 80s and 90s of Karachi, i exactly know how and what a cult can be, heck when i was young i used to be excited and used to follow a set narrative, difference is my line always was/is Pakistan

Me too: Grew up in the Karachi of that era and nearly fell for a certain very powerful cult but got away quickly as I realized it was a cult.

 

[Aggregate]

Yes, thank you, please continue to share and discuss this. It's worth noting, that the most sober and helpful analysts on the Indian side, are dismayed by the censorship and hysterical shrill noise coming from the media.

You will also notice, towards the end how deeply he has thought about inflicting long-term pain.





Everyone here, should now think twice about mocking India tooo much, it now may be the case that modi , or modi's avatar, is being dissolved only to be replaced by people who have learnt lessons and potentially thinking smarter.

as much fun as these memes are, they may well precipitate an improvement in Indian leadership.
This is still a flaw in the national psyche, in my opinion.

Exactly, this whole Video I was thinking about the same thing. In the last 3 weeks I have seen even the most sensible of Indians going completely mad. Maybe, maybe this one is the first sign of some of them finally coming back to their senses after turning into propaganda driven Zombies. That is, once the reality hit them hard in the last 3 weeks. You have made a very valid point.

 

[RescueRanger]

Sir, we should not also be expecting diplomats, and the more serious thinkers to talk like the fringe PDF posters just for a sugar rush.

I am not also saying I am his fan, just that you must know how to walk and chew gum, simply as a survival mechanism. Thanks

I attended a dinner where uncle was a speaker, I have followed him very closely from the days of Shaukat Aziz. Uncle is shrewd and always likes to hedge his bets and sit on the fence. He like Sheikh Rashid is a survivor.