Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

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lmao PTI supporters making fun of Khawaja need to watch this.

 

[Olympus81]

So where is Pakistani foreign office discussing India’s illegal moves on IWT and resorting to water terrorism?

 

[Meengla]

What I am referring to is the direction taken by the decision-makers on this, as you have socialized a decision to potentially start a war as your countermeasure to terrorism.

There is no way the attacks inside the Indian Occupied Kashmir can be totally stopped. There is too much political divide, too much blood shed, too much injustice since 1989 to prevent some disgruntled people from targeting tourists and Indian security personnel. So Modi's new policy to automatically blame Pakistan for everything happening in IoK is disastrous as the next attack is just around the corner.

Sadly, it is also to be noted that Pakistan does have a huge terrorism problem inside Pakistan itself and for some of them India can't be blamed. We have a topmost leader who built his political appeal by directly accusing the state of Pakistan's actions against the Pakistani Taliban as 'for American Dollars, we are killing our own'. We have a significant political party whose leadership boasts being 'Father of the Taliban'. We have the tribal in Baluchistan who displaced their own clan in large numbers and when the state intervened on behalf of the displaced, the tribes took up arms as 'liberation movement'. Add to the mix, there is terrorism inside Pakistan to stop the CPEC projects due to geopolitics.

My point is, Pakistan itself suffers from the rogue elements and Pakistan can't stop them from doing something against India any more than Pakistan can't stop them from attacking inside Pakistan itself. There are, sadly, ideological support right inside Pakistan itself for such players. But of course India's role is not insignificant either in fomenting terrorism inside Pakistan. And the best way to deny India the space is to remove the local ideological support to these terrorist groups.

 

[Maarkhoor]

So where is Pakistani foreign office discussing India’s illegal moves on IWT and resorting to water terrorism?

We are at war and since water is still flowing but we are preparing case against them since they wanted to prove us wrong in front of whole world but whole world did not buy endiots narrative so they are like dog tail between their legs.

 

[r3alist]

So where is Pakistani foreign office discussing India’s illegal moves on IWT and resorting to water terrorism?

The DG ispr, literally just made Pakistan's position on this clear yesterday.

As of now, the Indians have used the word abayance, which gives them room to toggle either way.
There is a time in place for black and white interpretations, there is also a time in place we're working in shades of grey is necessary. Indian's, tend to be a bit better with the grey part

 

[Maarkhoor]

Why is it that FATF slapped Pakistan with sanctions and India has been funding terrorism for 20 years and nobody bats an eyelid?

Our mistake we should ramp up our cause with full spectrum but some Baqiyaat of trio (Imran, Bjawja and Faiz) trying hard not to peruse.

 

[Watandar]

So where is Pakistani foreign office discussing India’s illegal moves on IWT and resorting to water terrorism?

If FO is smart they could point out that India can break trade deals unilaterally just like it did with IWT. FO should also highlight how India has been playing both sides, receiving benefits from the West as a new strategic partner, then also backstabbing it by financing Russian war in Ukraine and conducting an assasination campaign in West itself.

 

[TAC]

Yaar, I don't wanna be mean or condescending here but the thing is, k aap log shayad desensitize go gae wrt these types of attacks.

Attack shook us pretty bad, forget that there's a hard right BJP in power now, even the most left wing commie whatever gorment would have been forced into some kind of action here. So they decided to hit back at some dodgy locations where there's these questionable seminaries.

Pak mil proper airbase attacks were also kinda a show of force, shot across the bow type.

Military is fit enough, this wasn't a full blown war.

Suggest u consider the 6 No. top of the line IAF jets shot down as also a ‘shot across the bow

 

[Ali_Baba]

Dear members, could you please provide a detailed summary of Pakistan's Bunyan-um Marsoos and what actions were taken during it?

Indians started drinking too much gau mutra, thy got horribly drunk on it, got very rowdy with the locals and started shooting off at their mouths and egging each other on. They ended up starting a fight while drunk on gau mutra, they got beaten black and blue in precise and overwhelming counter punches that were delivered as part of the response and now they pretend it did not happen and everything was all blown out of proportion.. typical night for them ...

The follow up is for them to attend gau mutra anonymous drinking meetings to try and get over their addiction.

There you go - all caught up on what happened and where we are. Save you reading 1759 pages .. You are welcome.

 

[r3alist]

There is no way the attacks inside the Indian Occupied Kashmir can be totally stopped. There is too much political divide, too much blood shed, too much injustice since 1989 to prevent some disgruntled people from targeting tourists and Indian security personnel. So Modi's new policy to automatically blame Pakistan for everything happening in IoK is disastrous as the next attack is just around the corner.

Sadly, it is also to be noted that Pakistan does have a huge terrorism problem inside Pakistan itself and for some of them India can't be blamed. We have a topmost leader who built his political appeal by directly accusing the state of Pakistan's actions against the Pakistani Taliban as 'for American Dollars, we are killing our own'. We have a significant political party whose leadership boasts being 'Father of the Taliban'. We have the tribal in Baluchistan who displaced their own clan in large numbers and when the state intervened on behalf of the displaced, the tribes took up arms as 'liberation movement'. Add to the mix, there is terrorism inside Pakistan to stop the CPEC projects due to geopolitics.

My point is, Pakistan itself suffers from the rogue elements and Pakistan can't stop them from doing something against India any more than Pakistan can't stop them from attacking inside Pakistan itself. There are, sadly, ideological support right inside Pakistan itself for such players. But of course India's role is not insignificant either in fomenting terrorism inside Pakistan. And the best way to deny India the space is to remove the local ideological support to these terrorist groups.

There is a plausible possibility of something indigenous coming out of Indian Kashmir alone, but of course that's the point now, India have said they will decide and act in a unilateral way

you see it's an inherently silly construct, because it's just some rhetorical garb before you get down to a military to military confrontation.

The important point to glean here is that they think they can sell a military to military confrontation in the west as a counterterrorism measure.

That's why nuclear sabarettling and signaling and the escalation ladder became and will continue to be such an absolutely key debate and discussion as that will control and dictate the escalation and us intervention

You should watch haqqani on The wire, he was at his wits end to try and explain to thapar that you are declaring military to military war as a counter terrorism measure and it that's basically just war

 

[Meengla]

Didn't you say that you are Indian democracy, this Indian friend? How do you explain this? Why should this be the case in a society governed by the rule of law? If this is in China, the police will definitely be dealt with, and this is a common phenomenon in your India

I have never considered India a 'democracy'. Mere change of your ruling thugs through elections is not democracy. But I do give it to them that the transition of power is smooth and major policies are continued despite the change of govts and that itself is a major achievement because I believe nations which lagged behind had issues with handling power transitions and continuation of policies. Look at Pakistan with fake revolutionaries and wanna be Amir ul Mominoon with their long, disruptive political agitations every time they lost power. Look at Bangladesh which, under Hasina Wajid's stability of long time, marched ahead.
Smooth transfers of power, Political Stability, continuation of policies are the key.

 

[Master Chief]

Yaar, I don't wanna be mean or condescending here but the thing is, k aap log shayad desensitize go gae wrt these types of attacks.

Attack shook us pretty bad, forget that there's a hard right BJP in power now, even the most left wing commie whatever gorment would have been forced into some kind of action here. So they decided to hit back at some dodgy locations where there's these questionable seminaries.

Pak mil proper airbase attacks were also kinda a show of force, shot across the bow type.

Military is fit enough, this wasn't a full blown war.

Sharma ji bhai, for the record, I and many forum goers genuinely like your pleasant and harmonious ululations but alas, we don't fall for your attempts at false signalling, mitigation and misdirection.

There was nothing unusual or unexpected about the Pahalgam attacks, like the Pulwama attacks 6 years ago.

On the contrary, your agencies knew what was coming, and milked it as per a pre-meditated doctrine. The milking process went wrong, but they weren't to know.

Indeed, the entire world and his uncle warned you many years ago of the perilous local consequences of 370 suspension, never mind the long history of disenfranchisement, disappearances and rapes.

Your nation has locked up local Kashmiri leaders periodically, suspended neutral local and foreign media, and stationed 700k security forces in that region for a bloody good reason, and now you feign surprise?

 

[TAC]

Who can blame them, they were told it was the best and unbeatable. Armed with (not even top of the line) Chinese tech, PAF proved otherwise

https://bulgarianmilitary.com/amp/2025/05/19/rafale-deal-at-risk-as-indonesia-probes-combat-shortfall-rumors/

 

[Jeremy]

Pakistan's achilles heel is China. We are too dependent on them. If some actual national policy planners and strategists existed in Pakistan, we would invest heavily in education and expanding the economy, so that we could eventually produce everything orginally Chinese under license at home.

Similarly if there was a smart Indian in New Delhi, it will begin to patch up with China so that in 10 years time, the relationship would have grown so much the Chinese will question why they are involved in the India-Pakistan struggle. Thats the strategy Israel employed against Palestine starting in 1970s. Today no Arab except poor Yemen stands with them.

There are only politicians, not strategists in India. Politicians sacrifice the country's future for personal interests. And people like Pravin Swaheny are considered traitors!

 

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