Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Puncher]

shows nothing.... it does not say, who contacted first and to whom?!
contact could also mean, replying back to earlier request!
not very clear (in other words, not clear IF INDIA DID NOT REQUEST A CEASEFIRE FIRST!)

ok.. I am not getting into explaining simple english

 

[NA71]

For Indian fans in denial ....

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[Puncher]

ohh.. i am all ears... please share THE STORY!

If i share here, the whole forum will get triggered and I will end up getting banned .. ping me in telegram and i will share Sat image starting from Skaru to Karachi

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

If i share here, the whole forum will get triggered and I will end up getting banned .. ping me in telegram and i will share Sat image starting from Skaru to Karachi

dont be so mellow dramatic, share on twitter!

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

ok.. I am not getting into explaining simple english

exactly, truth is unbounded! propaganda needs explanation (lines after lines!)
thankyou for bringing that up!

 

[Yasser76]

If i share here, the whole forum will get triggered and I will end up getting banned .. ping me in telegram and i will share Sat image starting from Skaru to Karachi

You care about our feelings so much you hold back evidence supporting Indian claims.

Bless you.

 

[SABRE]

Obviously Pakistan talked to countries for ceasefire. What is special about that? Everyone knoww that several countries were involved in the ceasefire process. You don't know that? What are you? Five year old?

The thing is ceasefire happened only after Pakistan rejected indian appeal to not respond

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The question is why India agreed to ceasefire on a day when Pakistan was openly bombing mainland Indian territory like Gujarat, Rajasthan, haryana, Punjab and Himachal Pradesh?

Didn't India know it can sustain brinkmanship as you are proudly claiming on this thread?

That question will haunt Indians and keep us curious for sometime. My hypotheses are as follow:

a. One of the key legitimacy factor of Modi government is based on the notion of the US treating India as an equal and Trump treating Modi as a friend, even though it is absurd. Second factor is, of course, trade and economy. Trump probably arm twisted India on both these issues. Although, that "equal partner" bubble blew up on Modi and Jayshankar's face anyway.

b. If we can give importance to it and if the interpretation is correct, the demeanor of Indian military reps and foreign secretary showed two things;

i. Pakistan's response was not what India had expected

ii. the cost incurred by Pakistani response outweighed the perceived benefits of India's military action

iii. The Indian military was not prepared for full scale war, especially considering that Pakistan would deploy forces before them and since the conflict had already escalated to violent counterforce phase Pakistan would probably move forward rather then stay deployed at the front. Indian army has been saying that Pakistani forces had started to move toward Shakargarh Buldge, which would threaten Jammu-Pathankot (correct me if I am wrong on geography).

iv. In line with the above, a. India had lost its air cover, and b. Indian Punjab was also likely perceived as highly vulnerable to breaking away. There are indications that local Sikhs dissidents were thinking in this direction.

Thus it was likely the Indian military and officials from MEA who pushed for ceasefire while the BJP goons took a face saving back seat.

I could be all of these, some of these, or none of these.

 

[NA71]

If i share here, the whole forum will get triggered and I will end up getting banned .. ping me in telegram and i will share Sat image starting from Skaru to Karachi

Puncher repairing Indian punctures

 

[Puncher]

dont be so mellow dramatic, share on twitter!

your handle ?

 

[Fatman17]

The fact is, three times in a row—in 2016, 2019, and now 2025—India was not deterred from launching preemptive strikes on Pakistan, while Pakistan was left playing catch-up to react.


You can argue with all the feel-good numbers like 2-0 or 6-0, but the real question is: Is your nuclear deterrence truly effective? India can sustain this brinkmanship far longer than Pakistan can afford to, and the numbers in my earlier comments underscore this. Feel free to interpret it as you see fit.

You really want us to try it. Really?

 

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[Areesh]

ok.. I am not getting into explaining simple english

You can use whatever English that you want to and explain to me that why India agreed to a ceasefire on a day when Pakistan was openly bombing at least five indian states other than IoK?

Didn't india itself know that it can sustain brinkmanship as you said and bragged about earlier? What reasoning you have for this act by your hero Modi?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Before the war, indians were claiming that they were going to do to Pakistan what the israelis were doing to the Palestinians in Gaza then things known and unknown went disastrously wrong for the indians and they begged the americans for a ceasefire.

 

[Areesh]

i guess the claim 5 mins back was that It was India who asked for ceasefire.. isn't it ?

Yeah it still is even now

But since you don't agree to that being a modi fanboy then explain to us why your hero agreed to a ceasefire on a day when Pakistan was bombing several territories including his home state and was also openly bragging about it even at the time when India went for ceasefire

What is your explanation for this?