Pakistan, Kuwait discuss expanded defence pact: report

[maxpane]

This constant revisiting of history is why Pakistan stalls and gets stuck in neutral gear. We are living in a time when someone launched a car into space, yet some here are still stuck revisiting dusty old tomes from 1991.

Bahi what the hell is going on in some people's heads?

main aik misal deta hn ap ko
aik typical pakistani ki soch
main us k ghar gaya us ne mujhy adha hath dia . zara izat nahn ki pani bhi nahn pocha . jab wo banda kisi konur bula le tu phr kehty hain dikha di na apni okat . main ne kia kia nahn kia but akhir bhag k us k pas chala gaya.full emotional. apne interest ko dekho halat thk karo.
misal k tor pe ager india middle east main chala ajye ohr reaction dekhna chhaye tha Pakistaniyun ka .

 

[RescueRanger]

main aik misal deta hn ap ko
aik typical pakistani ki soch
main us k ghar gaya us ne mujhy adha hath dia . zara izat nahn ki pani bhi nahn pocha . jab wo banda kisi konur bula le tu phr kehty hain dikha di na apni okat . main ne kia kia nahn kia but akhir bhag k us k pas chala gaya.full emotional. apne interest ko dekho halat thk karo.
misal k tor pe ager india middle east main chala ajye ohr reaction dekhna chhaye tha Pakistaniyun ka .

Exactly bahi.

 

[lightning f57]

Indias sindoor showed the world that Pak has a modern and powerful military not a paper tiger like we sometimes see with countries that are run by their military. This IMO has significantly changed the calculation in the ME by the GCC countries (SA was an exception as there always been an arrangement in place).

Any defence deal should lead to massive financial uplift in Pak including helping to purchase more advance weapons from China.

Ironically China can be a real security guarantor for the region much better than the US as it can influence GCC with weapons, security support via Pak and influence Iran through its economic and investment moves.

The region needs stability to become stronger economically and militarily. Pak can help to be the catalyst here because of its non alignment and friendly relations with all.

 

[Starlord]

I would not read too much into this "Defense PACT" with Kuwait at this stage, I mean it took us decades to solidify a PACT with KSA, and sign it and send a sq of fighter jets. I will say that right now the region is on fire, Israel is out of control of USA and America is just busy with Iran while Arabs are getting hit, they already given up any thought of fight, like they won't even try to stop any expansion from Israel if it happens. These PACTs are just reactionary in nature, Kuwait and Bahrain got hammered and they just want some extra layer of security, Pakistan played a role in Iran-America ceasefire, so maybe Kuwaiti's think that a defense pact with Pakistan will help them start a backdoor negotitations with Iran to not hit them, I mean people see that KSA has been hit lowest since the war resumes.

Any defense PACT with any Arab country will depend on the results of KSA-Pakistan pact, if we see that it materialize in its OG form, only then in future more countries will like to join or sign their own, so far we did sign the pact and send troops and fighter jets to KSA but we have no major announcements from KSA side that they will side with Pakistan in any future conflict with India, or even from Pakistan that they will protect KSA from Israel or Houthies. Plus Pakistan has to first put its own home in order, Baluchistan is burning and KPK is self exploding Path, lots of traitors and haram khors among the Pakistani's, confused, jahil uncivilized people who are weakening their own country for Taliban and jahil Sardar's. Pakistan needs investments, oil and resources which mainly comes from GCC/Arab states, so if we can get something out of it i would say take it but don't get your hopes high, we ain't marching towards Jerusalem to liberate nor we should just sit idle and not sign such PACTs, if they don't benefit us they won't hurt us as well.

 

[Pakistan First]

Defense Pact with Kuwait. How it can be GREAT for the region, for Pakistan and even for Iran.

I think if we do it right then it would be great for us and for the region too.

Kuwait needs protection. Pakistan needs oil. So we don't have to ask for money or some free oil. Kuwait has 12 oil fields. We need ownership / transfer of one of Kuwait's oil fields. It will be Pakistani oil field.

But before we sign the pact, we need to do some diplomacy with US. There are US forces in Kuwait (or were that are temporarily evacuated). We just can't go and tell Trump to vacate Kuwait, we have to do it with diplomacy. I am not going to layout whole plan for diplomacy but the summary is to ask Trump that we are your ally and we want to share security responsibilities in Gulf, the critical oil infrastructure for global economy needs protection and Kuwait has asked for our assistance. We can only do proper security arrangement if US forces to be moved out as otherwise Iran will keep finding excuses to hit it.

If we are able to achieve above, it would be a master stroke. It would be good for the region and good for Iran too. Iran will not have to worry about Kuwait anymore.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Rent-a-state policies continue.

Do you also consider the US, the UK, France, and Australia to be "rent" states, or is it only when Western countries deploy forces to Arab states that they are viewed as partners, while the Arabs are portrayed as subordinates?

Yet, when Pakistan deploys forces to Arab countries, the narrative suddenly changes: Pakistanis are labelled as the "slaves," while the Arabs are portrayed as their masters.

I genuinely don't understand the logic. Is it driven by anti-Pakistan sentiment, hostility towards the Pakistani military, or simply a double standard?

 

[Owaiz]

Do you also consider the US, the UK, France, and Australia to be "rent" states, or is it only when Western countries deploy forces to Arab states that they are viewed as partners, while the Arabs are portrayed as subordinates?

Yet, when Pakistan deploys forces to Arab countries, the narrative suddenly changes: Pakistanis are labelled as the "slaves," while the Arabs are portrayed as their masters.

I genuinely don't understand the logic. Is it driven by anti-Pakistan sentiment, hostility towards the Pakistani military, or simply a double standard?

It is surprising that one cannot see the difference for themselves and have to ask this question, but there is a huge difference in the power dynamics between the two relationships. The US is a military, economic and technological superpower. The Gulf states are essentially its de facto protectorates. The security services provided by Pakistan are more akin to glorified chowkidaars.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

I would not read too much into this "Defense PACT" with Kuwait at this stage, ...

There is no defence pact with any other country currently in the pipeline. At this stage, this appears to be on Kuwait's wish list rather than Pakistan's.

If Kuwait is serious about pursuing such an agreement, it would first need to overhaul several of its policies.

• Kuwait would need to align its foreign policy much more closely with Pakistan's, particularly on Kashmir, Afghanistan, and India—no ifs or buts.
• It would also need to make substantial investments in Pakistan's defence industry to help ensure Pakistan has sufficient military capability to meet the needs of both countries.
• Kuwait would need to invest significantly in Pakistan's economy so that its security partner is not constrained by fiscal pressures.
• Long-term financial agreements—similar in nature to those that some Arab states have with the US and the UK—would also be expected.
• In addition, Kuwait would need to offer Pakistan preferential economic and strategic treatment.

These are some of the expectations Pakistan could have. Kuwait, or any other Arab country, does not occupy the same place in the hearts of Pakistanis as Saudi Arabia.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

... The US is a military, economic and technological superpower. The Gulf states are essentially its de facto protectorates. The security services provided by Pakistan are more akin to glorified chowkidaars.

That's precisely why Pakistan has only one defence pact with only one Muslim country, signed on 17 September 2025.

This "glorified chowkidaar" also carried out relentless airstrikes against Bagram Air Base.

• That came after the US President publicly sought access to the base from the Afghan Taliban, reportedly with the intention of using it as part of operations against Iran.
• At around the same time, Pakistan had also learned that Russian security personnel had quietly entered the airbase, established a presence, and begun repairing military equipment.

Pakistan's air campaign effectively ended the US President's pursuit of access to the base, while Russian personnel also withdrew and, to date, have not returned.

 

[hussain0216]

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Well guess what, with a a defence pact we can secure visas, support and fcuk over afghans and Indians

 

[hussain0216]

Remember this is not about picking a side

It's about changing the Muslim world and our region

We are a long long way off but our objective should be Muslim states working together, building our own weapons and providing support to each other

Pakistan is well placed to bring Iran and the GCC together

We don't have any enmity to Iranians or Arabs


We can also transform our own military production, weapons programs, investment, visas etc etc



It just seems the afghani types and PTI fanboys seem to be really upset

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Remember this is not about picking a side

It's about changing the Muslim world and our region

We are a long long way off but our objective should be Muslim states working together, building our own weapons and providing support to each other

Pakistan is well placed to bring Iran and the GCC together

We don't have any enmity to Iranians or Arabs


We can also transform our own military production, weapons programs, investment, visas etc etc



It just seems the afghani types and PTI fanboys seem to be really upset

Today ...

• We don't have anti-Pakistan, pro-Arab Pakistanis.
• We don't have anti-Pakistan, pro-Turkish Pakistanis.
• We don't have anti-Pakistan, pro-Chinese Pakistanis.
• We don't have anti-Pakistan, pro-European Pakistanis.
• We don't have anti-Pakistan, pro-American Pakistanis.

But...

• We do have anti-Pakistan, pro-Afghanistan Pakistanis.
• We do have anti-Pakistan, pro-Iran Pakistanis.

The latter group also tends to overlap with supporters of Pakistan Tehrik-e-Baqwas and is largely based in Western countries.

They often argue that Afghanistan and Iran—both governed by religiously driven regimes—are somehow better models than every other Muslim-majority country. Both states have also been accused of seeking to expand their regional influence by exporting their ideologies beyond their own borders through extremist and violent means.

What's that all about?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Some audacity there by the Kuwaitis to ban visas from Pakistan for 2 decades and then have the humility to ask for some pact


They'll just have to KoWait.

they are self serving for sure. sadly all these GCC countries know that we Pakistanis are madly devout Muslims holding them in high esteem due to relgious connection and badly are starved for cash with very potent force they can hire for money to fight for them.
And we all know who they want defence from and its not Israel. even though srael bombed Qatar one of their kind but they dont want protection from America or Israel since they are actively providing full logstics support to Israel and America against Iran.
Pakistan has stayed away from their war against Iran since the time of Gen Zia and I pray and hope it remains that way despite all the pressure being put on Pakistan because it will be a desaster.

 

[RocketLaw]

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Pakistan should NOT spread very thin to every Arab country, it is not wise move.

Have you seen Kuwait Map?

Next to Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Iran and US bases - very dangerous situation for Pakistan trap.

 

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Pakistan should NOT spread very thin to every Arab country, it is not wise move.

Have you seen Kuwait Map?

Next to Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Iran and US bases - very dangerous situation for Pakistan trap.

The U.S benefited by hundreds of billions if not trillions over time

And in the end it sunk the GCC for a war for the Zionists


This is a plan for the coming DECADES, not a agreement that by next week Pakistan will send over hundreds of thousands of troops