Pakistan Missiles - Updates, News & Discussion

[kimjongun]

There was around 5 Fatah MLRS hits off target near Mamun, 3 off target from pathankot AFS. Then around 2 hits on Udhampur AFS and 1 hit on a IA Cantt next to Udhampur AFS, then there was a bunch of hits in the IA Compound in Beas, and another Fatah hit at a CRPF base in sri nagar.

Bhai , the things is successful hints , while most of you mentioned are off target.

 

[Princeps]

The Fatah 2 was supposed to be a SSM lik3 the iskander with a quasi ballistic trajectory , however people like Farooq bhai have given some hints regarding how there are 2 variants for the F2 with one being the 250km variant rocket and the other being the 400km SSM but there is no evidence to back the claim except articles. I would consider it gargon tho , unless qualified people like @safriz or @JamD tell us

Iskander is a good 1 ton (1200kg) heavier than F2 while having similar range. It's also stubbier and has smaller aerodynamic surfaces. Combine this with what we know about the Iskander, it's more of a traditional ballistic missile compared to F2 which means higher apogee and terminal velocity.

 

[TallGuy]

It’s a quasi-BM. Point being, it’s not supposed to have simple parabolic trajectory. Also, all TBMs (in this range class) remain within atmosphere. Anyways this is how ISPR describes it:
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Sir, you and i are talking about the same GIDS Fattah 2 Rocket with 290-400km

the same rocket if fired at depressed trajectory will range less and same rocket fired at parabolic trajectory will range 400km

its guided Extended Range GMRLS with FE warhead. the ISPR fancy words like "Unique trajectory" means depressed trajectory (250km) and parabolic for further (400km) and "maneuver feature" means capability to maneuver in dive 75* or 90*

 

[Psyko70]

So guided rockets created enough fuss with off target hits that ceasefire was announced ? This 2025 conflict gets more confusing everyday.

 

[TallGuy]

So guided rockets created enough fuss with off target hits that ceasefire was announced ? This 2025 conflict gets more confusing everyday.

No No!
the discussion is about GIDS Fattah 1 GMRLS (which was heavily utilized at targets from the border in 120km Arc. the did well but they can not be measured large hitting power. its has 150kg warhead that to fragmentation warhead its good for IA battlefield targets.

heavy rockets are used to hit supply depots deep behind enemylines for that we used GIDS Fattah 2 Extended range rocket (but issue was that we did not have the numbers)

that is the real issue - having no conventional deep strike (hard hitting capability) other then Air force. that too under contested airspace by IADS not by IAF

 

[PakistaniDefender]

GIDS Fattah 2 ER-Rockets were used to target Barnala IACCS, Punjab (2 x ER Rockets), Hisar airport near dehli (2 x ER Rockets) and Sirsa AFS (2 x ER Rockets)

All of these were intercepted except one that fell near Barnala IACCS

All of these intercepted by S-400 SAM System, these GIDS Fattah 2 ER-Rockets flew parabolic trajectory

That is why need Tactical Aero-Ballistic Missiles.

That's so depressing considering high rate of interceptions of F2s. Weren't S400 taken out before us firing our missiles?

 

[PakistaniDefender]

There was around 5 Fatah MLRS hits off target near Mamun, 3 off target from pathankot AFS. Then around 2 hits on Udhampur AFS and 1 hit on a IA Cantt next to Udhampur AFS, then there was a bunch of hits in the IA Compound in Beas, and another Fatah hit at a CRPF base in sri nagar.

How many were F2s?

 

[hasssanali8998]

There was around 5 Fatah MLRS hits off target near Mamun, 3 off target from pathankot AFS. Then around 2 hits on Udhampur AFS and 1 hit on a IA Cantt next to Udhampur AFS, then there was a bunch of hits in the IA Compound in Beas, and another Fatah hit at a CRPF base in sri nagar.

were they jammed , is the guidence section not good enough ??

 

[JamD]

Sir, you and i are talking about the same GIDS Fattah 2 Rocket with 290-400km

the same rocket if fired at depressed trajectory will range less and same rocket fired at parabolic trajectory will range 400km

its guided Extended Range GMRLS with FE warhead. the ISPR fancy words like "Unique trajectory" means depressed trajectory (250km) and parabolic for further (400km) and "maneuver feature" means capability to maneuver in dive 75* or 90*

I don't know why this idea became popular and parroted on the forum but I need to correct it. A depressed trajectory has LESS range, not more. The reason is quite simple, it flies lower and encounters more dense air for longer and thus can travel less further. Depressed trajectories are used because they have reduced time of flight and reduced apogee (helping avoid detection/tracking).

I don't know what parabolic trajectory means. You only get that if you ignore the existence of the atmosphere. That is quite the wrong assumption especially for SRBMs MRLS etc. A real trajectory is always more complex than a parabola. It can be divided into boost coast and reentry phases. You seem to be implying parabolic as the opposite of depressed. Not sure how that makes sense. A non depressed trajectory has a higher apogee (duh), a longer time of flight, and higher terminal velocity. So it is a tradeoff between range, apogee, and terminal speed.

 

[JamD]

The Fatah 2 was supposed to be a SSM lik3 the iskander with a quasi ballistic trajectory , however people like Farooq bhai have given some hints regarding how there are 2 variants for the F2 with one being the 250km variant rocket and the other being the 400km SSM but there is no evidence to back the claim except articles. I would consider it gargon tho , unless qualified people like @safriz or @JamD tell us

I don't know for sure obviously. But my reading of this is that it's the same basic airframe, with small changes (like SMASH has maneuvering rockets near the nose), terminal and no terminal seeker and hence different guidance packages.

 

[Ibbi32]

S400 interceptor for a fatah 2 is still a good trade. India cannot readily replace those interceptors given russia ukraine war. But i hope lessons have been learnt as fatah 1/2 is backbone of PARFC and very necessary for keeping enemy busy. We have already seen what good numbers of fatah 1 can do to their bases, hope we can launch greater numbers of fatah 2 next time with fatah 3/4 as well to conduct SEAD as well

 

[hasssanali8998]

Pakistan updates a notification issued earlier, now adds a danger zone in the north Arabian Sea region near Karachi for a weapons test, the range is near 415-km

Date: 14-15 April 2026

 

[Toxic]

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Pakistan updates a notification issued earlier, now adds a danger zone in the north Arabian Sea region near Karachi for a weapons test, the range is near 415-km

Date: 14-15 April 2026

90% sure this is a SMASH test.

 

[studsmart]

90% sure this is a SMASH test.

can smash hit targets at 500KM? sea to sea or sea to surface?

 

[Toxic]

So did the test happen or what?