Pakistan Missiles - Updates, News & Discussion

[Ali_Baba]

18 tons lmao, do you think the missile is made of tungsten?

I was going off the picture that Samurai posted!

 

[Toxic]

I was going off the picture that Samurai posted!

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Yeah well it completely wrong, don't rely on google AI.

 

[Samurai]

18 tons lmao, do you think the missile is made of tungsten?

Actually @Ali_Baba quoted the size from the Google AI screenshot that I posted, which had written SMASH's weight as 18,000KG which is wrong as original spec shared by @Bilal.

 

[Samurai]

Given the ability to now design systems like this in Pakistan, is there any reason why Pakistan could not design ALBM for its JF17 and J10CE series of jets?

AI did it this will be the future ALBM of Pakistan.

Edit: The missile size was smaller so I asked AI to make it look more like a ballistic missile.

 

[Corax]

I would go for a rocket assisted range extender and guidance kit for the Mk series of bumb bombs. I think the Turks have done something similar.

 

[studsmart]

Also did a quick Google AI comparison between SMASH and RAFAEL'S ROCKS ALBM which can be mounted on an F-16. So if they can bring SMASH closer to Rocks in terms of weight and dimensions, then it can be a potent ALBM class weapon in PAF's arsenal.

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18000 kg weight number is wrong - totally wrong. Most probably it is 2500 KG or less but the diameter of 600mm is encouraging

 

[Falcon26]

Why hasn’t PAF inducted the HD-1A which is clearly superior to the Brahmos, at least on paper, and which was specifically designed for the JF-17 & J-10?

@Quwa @Oscar

 

[RandomThoughts7]

CM-400s are good as long as they are being used for anti-radiation roles, although if Pakistan can manufacture its own AGM-88 HARM like missiles in the FAAZ series then that would be great. What PAF truly needs is raw speed and firepower in terms of ALBM and having SMASH/Fatah-2 derivative for that role will be sufficient domestically produced option.

Imagine during standoff each squadron carrying a single SMASH ALBM along with Taimoor ALCM as well as CM-400s for targeting radars. Integrate them with ARFC's Fatah-1/2 and this will give India such a headache.

Hi, the SMASH/Fatah are designed for a different purpose. They are surface launched, meaning they have to climb up, accelerate and then come down to hit their target. In simple terms they need a stronger booster, more fuel to accelerate from the ground and then dive down. This will require a different missile structure, weight, and fuel load.

An ALBM has a different flight path. It is already in the air, so less drag and boosting needed, hence it can be smaller. Also the starting speed at launch is not 0 compared to the SMASH/Fatah 2.

Lastly, Turkey already is testing an ALBM. Pakistan should just integrate it and get licensed production, There is no need to reinvent the wheel. Pakistan needs to counter these ALBMs that India is buying. I would even integrate them onto older Mirages as they are ideal to launch these missiles on India from a standoff range near the border with Afghanistan. For these weapons, you just need an aircraft to act as a bomb truck.

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[RandomThoughts7]

Why hasn’t PAF inducted the HD-1A which is clearly superior to the Brahmos, at least on paper, and which was specifically designed for the JF-17 & J-10?

@Quwa @Oscar

Hi, you never know they might already have and not made it public. I honestly think the PAF has bought or had other weapons they did not use last May.

 

[Falcon26]

Hi, you never know they might already have and not made it public. I honestly think the PAF has bought or had other weapons they did not use last May.

Let’s hope so as it will completely nullify terror effect the Indians hope to achieve with their Brahmos.

 

[Princeps]

JF-17 already has the largest ALBM it can realistically carry, CM-400. If you want something bigger you need F-16s or J-10Cs to carry it.

 

[RandomThoughts7]

Let’s hope so as it will completely nullify terror effect the Indians hope to achieve with their Brahmos.

Hi, the CM400 is an ALBM, and it destroyed the IAF S400 radars. I think that has terrorized India also. I am sure the range of the CM400 is much longer that what is stated in public.

 

[Falcon26]

Hi, the CM400 is an ALBM, and it destroyed the IAF S400 radars. I think that has terrorized India also. I am sure the range of the CM400 is much longer that what is stated in public.

It’s not about the range but the sped and flight profile. One is an ALBM & the other is supersonic cruise missile which is much harder to detect and engage

 

[kimjongun]

Hi, you never know they might already have and not made it public. I honestly think the PAF has bought or had other weapons they did not use last May.

That is just extreme level of hopium. The PAF would literally painr the pic of sidhu on the missile to show the "strategic planning" done by sidhu to induct the HD1A .
We just dont have it .

 

[Malik]

Why hasn’t PAF inducted the HD-1A which is clearly superior to the Brahmos, at least on paper, and which was specifically designed for the JF-17 & J-10?

@Quwa @Oscar

According to an article by Hindustan Times on January 26, 2026 Pakistan has acquired 192 HD-1 supersonic cruise missiles from China.