Metal 0-1
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Pakistan Navy Aviation
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the reality is there actually is not a good enough solution available on the market.
This is literally all it boils down to.
if pn could, theyd have bought MH60R's.
The Augusta Westland solutions arent ideal for our mission, theyre built on a specific doctrine, one we dont employ.
Russia nope
NH-90 is something i believe the PN is actively interested in but they're plagued with issues, though apparently they were fixed by the time qatar ordered!
Leaves China only:
Z9EC is probably not ideal. I wonder whether the PN wants a helo capable of launching an AShM? Something Z9 obviously cant do. Also, the Z9s electronics suite is not great, reliant on 'inspiration' from older cold war American designs.
Z20 i dont think is up for sale yet...
This is literally all it boils down to.
if pn could, theyd have bought MH60R's.
The Augusta Westland solutions arent ideal for our mission, theyre built on a specific doctrine, one we dont employ.
Russia nope
NH-90 is something i believe the PN is actively interested in but they're plagued with issues, though apparently they were fixed by the time qatar ordered!
Leaves China only:
Z9EC is probably not ideal. I wonder whether the PN wants a helo capable of launching an AShM? Something Z9 obviously cant do. Also, the Z9s electronics suite is not great, reliant on 'inspiration' from older cold war American designs.
Z20 i dont think is up for sale yet...
FuturePAF
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Perhaps GHQ wants PN to adopt a common helicopter alongside the Air Force and the Army. If the Z-20 is deemed meeting requirements, and adopted, it could be a matter of waiting on China to allow the export and for GHQ to arrange the financing. Perhaps the hope is to see if Pakistan can secure a FMS of the Blackhawk/SeaHawk.
Aziqbal
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neglecting the rotary wings for all 3 branches of the military is a historical issue
we really need to address it , from AH-1 to those stupid looking Lamas
we need a proper helicopter program
we really need to address it , from AH-1 to those stupid looking Lamas
we need a proper helicopter program
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VSR700
The VSR700 is a tactical unmanned aerial system (UAS) designed to operate alongside other ship-based naval assets.
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vsr700 carries the same sonar kit as the MH60R, a small but capable radar and EO/IR. Can also deploy depth charges.
I wonder, if this type of setup could be a really handy stand in solution for the PN to deploy onboard ships as an interim solution alongside Z9's.
Use the Z9's as shooters, the VSR's as sensors- which is how airbus is pitching it anyway.
Could be an interesting solution to the PN's ASW problem.
Could even use fixed wing drones to drop a torp in an AOR outlined by the VSR, thus, once again, offering an interesting interim ASW solution.
Then again, most of these ASW choppers use mots thales kit, nothing stopping PN from pulling a sea sultan but for choppers.
Zephyrus
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1029 is Pakistan Army
Is this a 6th aircraft ?
