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[Par 5]

Looks lie the PN is going the Turkish way. I won't be surprised if Pakistan joins the Turkish MIL-DEN (national submarine) project, which has already developed the most critical mid-section (with indigenous sub-class metals) to install indigenous vertical launchers. And, they're working on mini nuclear reactors......

The Turkish naval industries gained experience from locally manufacturing the German AIP subs with tons of indigenous sub-systems...

Pakistan Navy's Plan to Design Its Own Submarine After the Hangor-Class​

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PN has always been willing to pay for the hardware but never for acquiring the actual knowledge for Sub Building. Acquiring exclusive sub building knowledge is more expensive than a Sub itself and PN is still not willing to think outside the box to obtain it. So I do not see Pakistan venturing into sub building with an exclusive PN design

 

[Pakistan First]

You know nothing, it was never about selling it to other customers, PN originally wanted over dozen A90s,

LOL! How on earth people show audacity to say "You know nothing" and themselves have not a shred of info. I advice, if unsure then its always better to do little research first pls. thanks. Urgency to write a counter post can wait for few mins.



Read above and help yourself. Secondly, there's not a single report or evidence claiming about "A dozen A90 subs".

 

[Toxic]

LOL! How on earth people show audacity to say "You know nothing" and themselves have not a shred of info. I advice, if unsure then its always better to do little research first pls. thanks. Urgency to write a counter post can wait for few mins.

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Read above and help yourself. Secondly, there's not a single report or evidence claiming about "A dozen A90 subs".

Do you suffer from a reading comprehension curse? Yes Pakistan got export license for the A90 but there was never anywhere near close to a major intention to export it and French gave it away as a deal sweetener

Also why do you think PN went to such great lengths to get TOT for a program which would only Span 3 boats? PN wanting a large submarine fleet was planned all the way back in the days of the A90s but for variety of reasons they couldn't go ahead with those plans, A90 was already an older design when PN ordered them which French didn't mind giving away the license to.

Watch Quwa

https://youtube.com/@quwagroup?si=mS8Qk7ijmVohnL-y

They will give you a much better idea about this topic then whatever bullshit google AI generates.

 

[Pakistan First]

Do you suffer from a reading comprehension curse? Yes Pakistan got export license for the A90 but there was never anywhere near close to a major intention to export it and French gave it away as a deal sweetener

I read exactly what you wrote. Below is the evidence. Read bolded part carefully that you wrote. No amount of excuses can change that now.

You know nothing, it was never about selling it to other customers, PN originally wanted over dozen A90s

Whatever you wrote above is 100% false. Read below that it was all about re-selling. That was the actual idea behind buying those re-export rights. Those were the news coming out of official sources. Secondly, not a single official / semi-offical / media report on dozen A90s aquisition. Remember we are talking about HARD FACTS. We are not talking about our analysis and assumptions. Separate facts with assumptions / analysis please. Improve your comprehension.





FACT: Pakistan bought re-export rights to sell A90s to other countries. That's a fact. We even did marketing to Malaysia.

Analysis: It was a wrong idea, They really never meant it OR blabla whatever.


My request is don't deny the basic hard facts. You won't succeed ever.

 

[Toxic]

I read exactly what you wrote. Below is the evidence. Read bolded part carefully that you wrote. No amount of excuses can change that now.

Whatever you wrote above is 100% false. Read below that it was all about re-selling. That was the actual idea behind buying those rights. Those were the news coming out of official sources. Secondly, not a single official / semi-offical / media report on dozen A90s aquisition. Remember we are talking about HARD FACTS. We are not talking about our analysis and assumptions. Separate facts with assumptions / analysis please. Improve your comprehension.

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Are you illiterate? Or did you ignore this part because you are a moron who's first instinct after having argument challenged is falling back on Ai?

DCNS was moving to the scorpeone design anyway so they added the foreign sale clause as a deal sweetener.

 

[Pakistan First]

Are you illiterate? Or did you ignore this part because you are a moron who's first instinct after having argument challenged is falling back on Ai?

Now your fragile ego is tingling and now started abuse, because you were wrong and someone pointed out. Nobody falling back to AI. I had those facts in my finger tips, how else I would have proved the facts for you? AI isn't doing analysis here, it just collected news sources and gave you summary and now you are butt hurt. Your other arguements are useless as I am not interested in your analysis. You were wrong when you said below:

it was never about selling it to other customers, PN originally wanted over dozen A90s, that's why they wanted TOT also DCNS was moving to the scorpeone design anyway so they added the foreign sale clause as a deal sweetener.

The next line after first hillarious line do not make the first statement of your true in anyway.

The solution to this arguement is in accepting facts as they are and calming down stupid fragile ego. Also don't get personal with me kiddie, or you'd regret your very existence as you won't be able to digest my words if I start in the language that you understand. Cheers

 

[Toxic]

Now your fragile ego is tingling and now started abuse, because you were wrong and someone pointed out. Nobody falling back to AI. I had those facts in my finger tips, how else I would have proved the facts for you? AI isn't doing analysis here, it just collected news sources and gave you summary and now you are butt hurt. Your other arguements are useless as I am not interested in your analysis. You were wrong when you said below:


The next line after first hillarious line do not make the first statement of your true in anyway.

The solution to this arguement is in accepting facts as they are and calming down stupid fragile ego. Also don't get personal with me kiddie, or you'd regret your very existence as you won't be able to digest my words if I start in the language that you understand. Cheer

Let me say it in a language you understand you simpleton

Let's say I want to buy something But i am uncertain about various things during the deal so the seller adds something "extra" To make the deal more appealing to me, sure It was never my interntion to get that extra thing in the first place but if the seller is willing to add it as bonus how can I refuse.

Also buddy politely go **** yourself, you are actually so retarded that I am pretty sure your parents wanted to end your suffering when you were a kid, it's actually miracle from God that you have managed to survive long enough to write this shit. I would donate my body to science if I were you, studying your brain will allow scientists to understand just how mentally challenged a person can be.

 

[Pakistan First]

Let me say it in a language you understand you simpleton

Let's say I want to buy something But i am uncertain about various things during the deal so the seller adds something "extra" To make the deal more appealing to me, sure It was never my interntion to get that extra thing in the first place but if the seller is willing to add it as bonus how can I refuse.

Also buddy politely go **** yourself, you are actually so retarded that I am pretty sure your parents wanted to end your suffering when you were a kid, it's actually miracle from God that you have managed to survive long enough to write this shit. I would donate my body to science if I were you, studying your brain will allow scientists to understand just how mentally challenged a person can be.

LMAO! , Thanks for entertainment. I really enjoyed talking to you a 3 year old in a defense forum.

Cutie baby, today try and go learn the difference between FACTS and Assumptions. Rightie kiddie?

I tried everything humanly possible to explain you that your below statements are Incorrect. 100% false.

it was never about selling it to other customers, PN originally wanted over dozen A90s,

The re-export liscence was all about the sale to friendly countries, we paid extra for that shit. Did Pakistan bought re-export rights, YES, bang I gave you FACTS, I can throw a news article link at your face. Here's the link:

Pakistan's tool of war: Agosta 90B, our submarine in the deep

Protecting lines of communications is a vital mission that the Agosta 90B performs.

www.dawn.com

Did Pakistan offered it to other countries? Yes Bang! Pakistan offered it to Malaysia (and wait a minute you said it was never about this ? LOL).



Also checkout this link. Go right at the end of section "Exports":

Pakistan Submarine Capabilities

Overview of Pakistan's submarine capabilities and import-export behavior.

www.nti.org

Its so amusing / entertaining for me to throw facts at you while you are unable to take out your face outta your ass. hahaha


Now, remember kiddie, separate facts from your assumptions or very poor analysis. I am only interested in facts. There could be tons of assumptions like it was to "sweeten the deal" LMAO or whatever kiddish statements. If you want to talk again, then remember your words are equivalent to horseshit just like you. Respond only if you can PROVE your statement: "that it was never about selling to other countries but Pakistan wanted over 12 A90s for itself" with NEWS article link. Otherwise STFU!