Pakistan Rocket Force Command News and Discussions

[RAMPAGE]

The reason American cruise missiles have crazy ranges is mintuarization of turbofans. 90% of the world's cruise missiles use turbojets. They are either range limited or ridiculously large. For example the SFC of the engine you listed is double that of the engine used in the Tomahawk. Just compare Stormshadow/SCALPJASSM and raad2/taimoor with JASSM ER. With turbojets we can basically have the stormshadow ranges. For JASSM ER ranges you'll need small turbofans (which are super controlled).

Strange you didn't mention Nirbhay. Indians seem to have matured the turbofan powered variant.

 

[JamD]

Missile was fired during the ongoing PAF exercise - effectively becoming part of the multi-domain operations.

This is good show of inter services integration and cohesion of operations.

One thing that isn't being talked about is that this happened during a joint airforce and ARFC exercise.

This is the most interesting aspect to me that the ARFC will possibly coordinate with PAF for strike. I was always thinking ARFC would be Army's strike element but this means it could also augment the PAF.


EDIT: I suppose it makes sense because the Indians primarily hit our airbases in May and the ARFC + space sensor network will be used to target those vectors.

 

[JamD]

Strange you didn't mention Nirbhay. Indians seem to have matured the turbofan powered variant.

Honestly I didn't know about Nirbhay. Evidently they have developed a turbofan variant that lets them achieve 1000+ km ranges. This is quite impressive. I will do the cop out that Pakistan will not gain enough tactical advantage by acquiring/developing turbofans compared to the cost that will incur. India is clearly developing the range of the Nirbhay for China and not Pakistan.

 

[falcon34]

I am sure the warhead was toned down, or so much distance, accuracy and tech to kill a single radar vehicle is a big gamble.
Can't a cluster version be more suitable?

If thats the radar of an S400 it's worth it.

 

[Goenitz]

If thats the radar of an S400 it's worth it.

Now, I think it can be used against fixed radar more efficiently. Though the test shows a wanna be mobile target, it suits best to take out a fixed radar, such as the green alpine or swordfish or whatever India has.

 

[safriz]

Honestly I didn't know about Nirbhay. Evidently they have developed a turbofan variant that lets them achieve 1000+ km ranges. This is quite impressive. I will do the cop out that Pakistan will not gain enough tactical advantage by acquiring/developing turbofans compared to the cost that will incur. India is clearly developing the range of the Nirbhay for China and not Pakistan.

Yet Zero Nirbhay were used during May 2025 war .
If the platform is ready and matured, why its not even deployed?
Thats because its not ready.
Not due to lack of capability. India does have the capability.
But due to politics and business.
Brahmos sales shall not ne impacted due to anything DRDO makes .

 

[Zarvan]

Today's #Fatah4 test and the tests being done by Rocket Force in the span of a year show that #Pakistan is done with strategic restraint, and the next conflict will be taken to all major Indian urban centers, and all military installations in those cities will be hit without any hesitation.

 

[Jaeger]

Yet Zero Nirbhay were used during May 2025 war .
If the platform is ready and matured, why its not even deployed?
Thats because its not ready.
Not due to lack of capability. India does have the capability.
But due to politics and business.
Brahmos sales shall not ne impacted due to anything DRDO makes .

Was any Babur used in May 2025?
Nirbhay is same as babur except has twice the range.

 

[kimjongun]

Was any Babur used in May 2025?
Nirbhay is same as babur except has twice the range.

Babaur had and has the nuclear role, while nirbhay is a conventional munition

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Today's #Fatah4 test and the tests being done by Rocket Force in the span of a year show that #Pakistan is done with strategic restraint, and the next conflict will be taken to all major Indian urban centers, and all military installations in those cities will be hit without any hesitation.

Offense is the best defence. ..

 

[Jaeger]

Babaur had and has the nuclear role, while nirbhay is a conventional munition

Nirbhay payload capacity is same as Babur, it can carry both conventional as well as nuclear payload.

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[hasssanali8998]

Nirbhay payload capacity is same as Babur, it can carry both conventional as well as nuclear payload.

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Yeah but Babur is specifically for nuclear role , alot of problem will arise if we start using our nuclear missiles for conventional strikes

And nirbhay CAN carry nuclear not the same as Babur which is just for nuclear strikes

 

[Jaeger]

Yeah but Babur is specifically for nuclear role , alot of problem will arise if we start using our nuclear missiles for conventional strikes

And nirbhay CAN carry nuclear not the same as Babur which is just for nuclear strikes

But you just did that.. So, when India detects your Fateh 4 launch which is essentially Babur missile and there is no way to distinguish between the two , India should be prepared to fire its nukes towards Pakistan ? As it can be either of the missiles?

 

[Corax]

Yeah but Babur is specifically for nuclear role , alot of problem will arise if we start using our nuclear missiles for conventional strikes

And nirbhay CAN carry nuclear not the same as Babur which is just for nuclear strikes

To be fair, the indians wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a Babur cruise missile or F4 coming their way, they'd just see the radar track of a cruise missile. The rocket force is essentially a tactical issue and a message that we have similar weapons as the nuclear forces but purely in conventional role.

 

[Corax]

So, when India detects your Fateh 4 launch which is essentially Babur missile and there is no way to distinguish between the two , India should be prepared to fire its nukes towards Pakistan ? As it can be either of the missiles?

If there's idiots like you in your armed forces then yeah, maybe. But I'm assuming there's enough sane people to know when Pakistan would likely deploy nuclear weapons, and the situation between the two countries would have to be very very dire for that to occur.