Pakistan Rocket Force Command News and Discussions

[Fatman17]

 

[side-winder]

1. I accept that video I posted was of Pechora SAM, that is why I removed it.

2. You have been repeating this line that Indian MEA had claimed that "high speed missile attacks AFTER 0140 hrs "and I was wondering why were you not posting entire briefing, along with the MEA link

I went and checked on their website and lo and behold, here is the entire sentence MEA website.

"There were also several high-speed missile attacks noticed subsequently after 0140 hours in the night at several air bases in Punjab. However, limited damage was sustained to equipment and personnel at Indian Air Force stations at Udhampur, Pathankot, Adampur and Bhuj. "

https://www.mea.gov.in/media-briefings.htm?dtl/39486/Transcript+of+Special+briefing+on+OPERATION+SINDOOR+May+10+2025

3. You do realize missile interception took place in Sirsa at 00:15hrs which is a place Haryana, where as MEA is taking Pakistani missile attacks airbases in J&K, Punjab and Gujrat(along the Pakistani border)after 0140 Hrs . I am attaching some maps of these places for your reference, to show how far they are from Sirsa.
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4. The missile which was intercepted in over Sirsa, was intercepted head on, ie it was approaching from the west, where as the interceptor approaching from the East.

5. The interception took place at supersonic speeds, i.e. as we can hear the sonic boom from interception few seconds later.

https://packaged-media.redd.it/ve0e0h7p56lf1/pb/m2-res_854p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&var=sgpssan&v=1&e=1778878800&s=75f1c88237e6f6cd59ed1c371b34a175b4c31ba6

https://packaged-media.redd.it/p4z17exhyvze1/pb/m2-res_1920p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&var=sgpssan&v=1&e=1778839200&s=0581521cf53d08ddc1c37b3a50097b255de7a746

1. So no wreckage of any Fatah in Sirsa. Only wreckage found were your own missiles.

2. The only high speed missile attack made mention of in MEA presser were after 0140 hrs.

And here you are cooking up stories like Fatah-2 headed to Dehli was intercepted over Sirsa.

Now stop detailing the thread with your brainfarts - get back when you find the evidence.

 

[kimjongun]

@Ak01
By the looks of it , the production of the IIR seeker seems to be increased isnt it?
Its being used in the Taimoor , Harbah and now the Fatah 4 .
Do you think a better version of the seeker will come in the near future?

 

[Ali_Baba]

@Ak01
By the looks of it , the production of the IIR seeker seems to be increased isnt it?
Its being used in the Taimoor , Harbah and now the Fatah 4 .
Do you think a better version of the seeker will come in the near future?

I suspect(my theory) that Pakistan is using off the shelf components from either Turkieye or China for the seeker, and other components with the overall design, certification and manufacturing being done in Pakistan. btw - this is "not" a bad thing, but a "good" thing, as Pakistan can develop its own seeker down the road if it really wants to. The ability to design, test, certify and operationally deployment is a very important skill to develop first.

 

[falcon34]

I suspect(my theory) that Pakistan is using off the shelf components from either Turkieye or China for the seeker, and other components with the overall design, certification and manufacturing being done in Pakistan. btw - this is "not" a bad thing, but a "good" thing, as Pakistan can develop its own seeker down the road if it really wants to. The ability to design, test, certify and operationally deployment is a very important skill to develop first.

I have heard from few people that we are actually procuring entire guidance modules in cover of civilian projects, like drones for agricultural and other stuff, don't how true that is but if the aim is to field hundreds of F4 and F5 quickly these guidance modules are the key

 

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...(continue)... Pakistan’s newly formed rocket forces and is widely regarded as one of the most swashbuckling and operationally competent generals in the Pakistan Army. His words offer bits and pieces of the doctrinal shift.

 

[Fatman17]

Beyond Pakistan's 'Multi-Domain Operations' Buzzword

Pakistan's military is quietly building "unified sub-commands" — the ARFC, Space Command, and a possible Drone Force — that cut horizontally across the Army, Air Force, and Navy, presided over by a single CDF-led chain of command.

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[aati]

Just a thought!

Why not Rocket force command under CJSC, involving rotation of all three services, giving operational control & exposure to all three services.
Why just under army & ultimately CDF only.
And yes I know CJSC position is no more!

 

[kimjongun]

Just a thought!

Why not Rocket force command under CJSC, involving rotation of all three services, giving operational control & exposure to all three services.
Why just under army & ultimately CDF only.
And yes I know CJSC position is no more!

Army doesnt let rotations happen that much , its pointless

 

[aati]

Army doesnt let rotations happen that much , its pointless

In an hypothetical world, if that happened wouldn't it be much more plausible & dynamic approach.
But also good for both vertical n horizontal scaling of rocket force.

 

[FuturePAF]

Alongside building up an arsenal of rockets, Pakistan should really look at building extensive tunnel networks (with many fake portals and backup exits similar to the MX missile shell game theory; including hidden ABM and air defenses) throughout the mountains of northern and western Pakistan. Also this should not only apply to rockets but also to small mini airbases, large enough to hide at most a few aircraft each, and able to deploy to near by motorways for operations similar to the American ACE concept (agile combat employment). We saw only a couple days ago the Iranians brought out a F-4 and used it against Kuwait.

The ability for extensive tunnel network in strategic (amassing forces without being seen), operational (organized Command and control to keep up tempo) and even tactical (less likely to be hit before launching) resilience can’t be underestimated.

 

[Watandar]

Alongside building up an arsenal of rockets, Pakistan should really look at building extensive tunnel networks (with many fake portals and backup exits similar to the MX missile shell game theory; including hidden ABM and air defenses) throughout the mountains of northern and western Pakistan. Also this should not only apply to rockets but also to small mini airbases, large enough to hide at most a few aircraft each, and able to deploy to near by motorways for operations similar to the American ACE concept (agile combat employment). We saw only a couple days ago the Iranians brought out a F-4 and used it against Kuwait.

The ability for extensive tunnel network in strategic (amassing forces without being seen), operational (organized Command and control to keep up tempo) and even tactical (less likely to be hit before launching) resilience can’t be underestimated.

This sounds similar to Iranian missile cities, which is an approach that Pakistan should copy but problem is it's very expensive. Unlike Iranians, Russkies, Gulfies we can't just sell oil and gas and get megabucks.

 

[FuturePAF]

This sounds similar to Iranian missile cities, which is an approach that Pakistan should copy but problem is it's very expensive. Unlike Iranians, Russkies, Gulfies we can't just sell oil and gas and get megabucks.

Yes it’s expensive, but if we also offer to build similar missile cities to the Saudis (who have a considerable mountain range approx 150 km north of Riyadh), who are looking for a way to deter Iran (and any others with nefarious plans against them) as our defense alliance partners, we would gain the expertise, technology and possible some funding assistance to do it in Pakistan. If Pakistan is ever called upon to employ kinetic means against an adversary of the Saudis and the Pakistani state agrees, having the missile bases inside Pakistan would be just as capable as having those bases inside Saudi, so conventional missile bases in Pakistan could be of use to the Saudis defense as fulfilling the spirit of the defense treaty.

Spread over the next 5-10 years, much could be built and could help employ a lot of Pakistani people, in Pakistan and Saudi.

Under the auspices of “mining”, much joint cooperation could be done.

 

[Watandar]

Yes it’s expensive, but if we also offer to build similar missile cities to the Saudis (who have a considerable mountain range approx 150 km north of Riyadh), who are looking for a way to deter Iran (and any others with nefarious plans against them) as our defense alliance partners, we would gain the expertise, technology and possible some funding assistance to do it in Pakistan. If Pakistan is ever called upon to employ kinetic means against an adversary of the Saudis and the Pakistani state agrees, having the missile bases inside Pakistan would be just as capable as having those bases inside Saudi, so conventional missile bases in Pakistan could be of use to the Saudis defense as fulfilling the spirit of the defense treaty.

Spread over the next 5-10 years, much could be built and could help employ a lot of Pakistani people, in Pakistan and Saudi.

Under the auspices of “mining”, much joint cooperation could be done.

Wow that is some creative thinking ! Yeah that would be a great project.