Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

No one in Pakistan is against the Pakistan–Saudi Arabia Defence Pact, except perhaps those who are easily influenced by IRGC propaganda.

Many Muslims in Pakistan feel blessed that our country has been entrusted with helping defend Islam's two Holiest Cities and Holiest Masajid. In my opinion, that responsibility is one of the greatest honours Pakistan could receive.

Personally, I regard it as one of the greatest blessings I have witnessed as a Pakistani in my lifetime.
Some tangential interpretation but…

To echo a Saudi General many years ago (written by a PAF veteran in his book) - when a Pakistani General gave a massive lecture titled defence of Makkah and plans -
The Saudi General got up and thanked him and told him no need to worry that much about it - whose house Makkah is more than capable of defending it if he wished and letting it be destroyed if he so wishes.
Makkah is not the property of muslims - muslims maintain it but they do so until Allah wills it.

Makkah has been laid siege to with blood split and it has been laid siege to and elephants ruined with stones.

It has been flooded and nearly destroyed and also survived disasters.

Even if it is nuked (as a hypothetical example - Allah controls all) muslims will still pray in its direction because its not an idol - that status of it as a common direction was decreed hundreds of years later after it was built.

Madinah - is the actual responsibility because it was built by our prophet and his property is our property.

Riyadh - irrelevant
Tehran - Irrelevant
Islamabad - irrelevant
Any mausoleums of any politico-religious leaders - irrelevant.
 
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Saudi Arabia appoints Dr Al-Baqami as new envoy to Pakistan​

Appointment comes amid growing strategic alignment between Islamabad and Riyadh, with growing defence, economic ties

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July 29, 2026
pictured is the newly appointed saudi ambassador to pakistan rajeh bin tami al baqami file photo


Newly appointed Saudi ambassador to Pakistan, Rajeh bin Tami Al-Baqami

Saudi Arabia on Wednesday appointed Dr Rajeh bin Tami Al-Baqami as its new ambassador to Pakistan, replacing Nawaf bin Said Al-Malki, Arab News reported, as the two longstanding allies deepen cooperation in defence, investment and regional security.

A retired major general, Al-Baqami, later joined the Saudi Foreign Ministry with the rank of ambassador. He holds a doctorate in Human Resource Management from Brunel University London.

His appointment comes amid growing strategic alignment between Islamabad and Riyadh. Less than a year ago, the two countries signed a Strategic Mutual Defence Agreement under which aggression against one would be considered an attack on both, formalising decades of military cooperation.

Saudi Arabia has also expanded economic engagement with Pakistan, pledging billions of dollars in investment under Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman’s Vision 2030 initiative, while continuing to provide financial support to help stabilise Pakistan’s economy during recurring balance-of-payments challenges.
 
Madinah - is the actual responsibility because it was built by our prophet and his property is our property.
A great point of wisdom......

Looks like the Pak military establishment - with all its frailties, flaws, follies and fallacies - have taken it up on its shoulder.....
 
It seems like KSA patience is running low, i disagree with their policies but they have kept themselves out of this war and avoid attacking Iran directly but this may change soon and this will put Pakistan into a difficult position.
 
It seems like KSA patience is running low, i disagree with their policies but they have kept themselves out of this war and avoid attacking Iran directly but this may change soon and this will put Pakistan into a difficult position.
Their patience with Pakistan is running low too.
They are going to go back to an international coalition to provide enforcement against Houthis which potentially could even involve India as well while you’re still balancing with Iran because you fear that even if 5% of the 30% of the population that takes Persia as some holy land revolts you are essentially done as a nation. Its Syria at that point.
 
Their patience with Pakistan is running low too.
They are going to go back to an international coalition to provide enforcement against Houthis which potentially could even involve India as well while you’re still balancing with Iran because you fear that even if 5% of the 30% of the population that takes Persia as some holy land revolts you are essentially done as a nation. Its Syria at that point.
Unfortunately when it comes to Pakistan there is never a good/easy options to pick, its always a choice between bad and worse options. You are right and if i was KSA with a PACT with Pakistan i will be annoyed too, but at the same time we have people who burn entire cities down over some random movie made in USA by some idiot looking for some easy/quick fame, so imagine what our Jahil awam will do if we take a stand against what can be percived as against Iran/Shia which you pointed out many Pakistani's take as some holy land.

We already have KPK on fire, Baluchistan on fire and now AJK cooking on low heat, and all i hear is bad govt/ bad America/ Sazish yahoodi , Thanos but literally ZERO self accountability from Pakistani's, these military officers who meddle in Politics are born out of our society, these corrupt politicians are from within our societies, from a real estate giant to a gareeb fruit wala, Sab ke sab chor and haram khor hai, the difference is only the amount of chori. In civilized world violence is kept as a last resort by people who are protesting a legtimate issue be it election fraud or protesting fighting Houthies/Iran or XYZ, but in Pakistan we start from level 10 violence by burning half a city down, shops of Gareeb who is trying to make a halal income and some random people Car's and when State start to use force, we start crying Genocide Genocide... So yeah we have no good option but I hope that if Houthies doesn't back down, this time around I think(hope) Pakistan honor its pact and help KSA/Coaliation with this Houthi problem.
 
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Unfortunately when it comes to Pakistan there is never a good/easy options to pick, its always a choice between bad and worse options. You are right and if i was KSA with a PACT with Pakistan i will be annoyed too, but at the same time we have people who burn entire cities down over some random movie made in USA by some idiot looking for some easy/quick fame, so imagine what our Jahil awam will do if we take a stand against what can be percived as against Iran/Shia which you pointed out many Pakistani's take as some holy land.

We already have KPK on fire, Baluchistan on fire and now AJK cooking on low heat, and all i hear is bad govt/ bad America/ Sazish yahoodi , Thanos but literally ZERO self accountability from Pakistani's, these military officers who meddle in Politics are born out of our society, these corrupt politicians are from within our societies, from a real estate giant to a gareeb fruit wala, Sab ke sab chor and haram khor hai, the difference is only the amount of chori. In civilized world violence is kept as a last resort by people who are protesting a legtimate issue be it election fraud or protesting fighting Houthies/Iran or XYZ, but in Pakistan we start from level 10 violence by burning half a city down, shops of Gareeb who is trying to make a halal income and some random people Car's and when State start to use force, we start crying Genocide Genocide... So yeah we have no good option but I hope that if Houthies doesn't back down, this time around I think(hope) Pakistan honor its pact and help KSA/Coaliation with this Houthi problem.
You're highlighting the issue already - you are basically a dude with $1 million combined credit card, mortgage, medical and auto debt living in house with stuff falling off but everything gets repainted and you have fancy german cars on loan while living with rats and cancer. You borrow left right from banks and friends while your only claim to fame is owning guns and you work out while pumping steriods to get quick gains and douse painkillers.

In this case, your "friends" then know you're screwed in the long run but they still keep you up for some old times sake and because they have their own issues so they'll hire you on IoUs for security but make other plans as well.

If this was an actual dude in real life - where do you think this is going?
 
Say what you want about them, but always there for us

 
Say what you want about them, but always there for us

Paks loans, credit picture is an interesting one.

IMF loans can be between 3.5-6.5% interest

Saudi loans 4-6% (Pak trying to negotiate a 1% facility)

World bank 1.5-6%

Chinese 0- 7.1%

Whilst grateful for the financial support, Pak really needs to find a way to reduce this debt burden. All the above have a high amount of leverage and influence on Pak.
 
Paks loans, credit picture is an interesting one.

IMF loans can be between 3.5-6.5% interest

Saudi loans 4-6% (Pak trying to negotiate a 1% facility)

World bank 1.5-6%

Chinese 0- 7.1%

Whilst grateful for the financial support, Pak really needs to find a way to reduce this debt burden. All the above have a high amount of leverage and influence on Pak.
KSA, throughout history, including when Pakistan was hit by some of the hardest sanctions right after the first nuclear tests, eventually waived the billions of loans (in the 2000's) that were given originally in the 1990's.

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As @Oscar correctly states, KSA is not going to be this generous forever if there is no return of investment in Pakistan (Pakistani government gets its act together and the country starts resembling a country with a population of almost 250 million) and if the Pakistani military is nowhere to be seen during regional skirmishes to help protect KSA, KSA itself (already the case) and our other partners will take that on themselves. I could even see Turkiye next door play a greater role as well as other Arab and non-Arab allies, Muslim and non-Muslim alike too.

Remittances will also not continue forever with the advent of AI and increased "Saudification" on every level. Manual jobs and labor in general is at its last legs in general in the world.

The world is moving towards a different economic reality overall. The old world order is quickly changing. Those that will be left on the platform will struggle to catch up with this new reality.

KSA is undergoing an economic and Industrial Revolution with almost all key sectors booming and record high foreign investment flowing into KSA, some of the fastest and highest economic growth, massive internal investments etc.

KSA is more than ready to move the relationship into other fields and create a truly multifaceted relationship spanning all key sectors but it is dependent on Pakistan getting its act together. Otherwise you are going to invest in a black hole. Even if Pakistan is a dear brotherly country and trusted ally - it is not feasible long-term for the current status quo to continue. Most importantly for Pakistan itself.

Just like throwing money continuously on a struggling family member is not going to help if you do not work on fixing the underlining problems.
 
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KSA, throughout history, including when Pakistan was hit by some of the hardest sanctions right after the first nuclear tests, eventually waived the billions of loans (in the 2000's) that were given originally in the 1990's.

As @Oscar correctly states, KSA is not going to be this generous forever if there is no return of investment in Pakistan (Pakistani government gets its act together and the country starts resembling a country with a population of almost 250 million) and if the Pakistani military is nowhere to be seen during regional skirmishes to help protect KSA, KSA itself (already the case) and our other partners will take that on themselves. I could even see Turkiye next door play a greater role as well as other Arab and non-Arab allies, Muslim and non-Muslim alike too.

KSA is undergoing an economic and Industrial Revolution with almost all key sectors booming and record high foreign investment flowing into KSA, some of the fastest and highest economic growth, massive internal investments etc.

KSA is more than ready to move the relationship into other fields and create a truly multifaceted relationship spanning all key sectors but it is dependent on Pakistan getting its act together. Otherwise you are going to invest in a black hole. Even if Pakistan is a dear brotherly country and trusted ally - it is not feasible long-term for the current status quo to continue. Most importantly for Pakistan itself.

Just like throwing money continuously on a struggling family member is not going to help if you do not work on fixing the underlining problems.
I agree Pak needs to get its house in order, brotherly countries and international institutions can't keep bailing them out.

Pak needs to focus on an industry and try and become the best in it so it can compete globally and generate lots of revenue.

On the defensive agreements, im all for supporting defense of brotherly countries and providing defence especially against long term threats like the zionists. But im very wary when it comes to getting involved in offensive operations.
 
I agree Pak needs to get its house in order, brotherly countries and international institutions can't keep bailing them out.

Pak needs to focus on an industry and try and become the best in it so it can compete globally and generate lots of revenue.

On the defensive agreements, im all for supporting defense of brotherly countries and providing defence especially against long term threats like the zionists. But im very wary when it comes to getting involved in offensive operations.
That is the crux of the matter and what prevents the KSA-Pakistan relationship from truly transcending into another level and other fields. Otherwise the impression by both parties, in particular the KSA part, is of losing out in the relationship and not getting much in return. KSA does not have any need for dealing with backward terrorist cults like the Houthis, Iraqi PMF terrorist cultists etc. or even Iranian firecrackers (mostly) in the form of drones and missiles. We can do that ourselves as we have been doing for 10 + years by now.

The pact is mostly aimed at Zionist (most likely) transgressions and an all-out war scenario, which in the case of KSA is quite unlikely by all accounts but of course not impossible.

At the same time there is little KSA or any other Muslim ally of Pakistan can do in case of a full-scale Pakistan-India war as unlikely as that is given that both countries are nuclear-armed states.

So forget the military pact/defense pact, what should be the priority here iMO is to help Pakistan fulfill its potential and help growth the KSA-Pakistan relationship into a truly multifaceted relationship.

I know that it is unfair to compare Pakistan with the US (foremost economy of the world, foremost technology and military power as well) but look at how multi-faceted the KSA-US relationship is. It spans the military sector (very important) but most importantly it spans economics, technology, AI, renewables, agriculture, foreign direct investments, presence of 1000's of US firms (many establishing their regional headquarters in KSA) and almost anything that you can think about.

Same with the Chinese and other partners.

KSA is ready not only to take the relationship into another level altogether but also to invest in Pakistan massively if there is a return of investment.

KSA has a much closer relationship with the Pakistani army, government (s) and political elites than with India next door. Average Saudi Arabians also have much more in common and much greater sympathy with the average Pakistani than the average Indian.

In other words if Pakistan gets its act together it has all the advantage to take the relationship into the next level compared to India and others in the region.

This does not only relate to KSA but all Arab states and Muslim ones in the region.

I am only saying this because it is sad to see Pakistan in this state while KSA's relationship with countries that we share much less in common with is booming and developing and changing in its nature but the relationship with Pakistan still resolves around remittances, Pakistani workforce, military relationship, Saudi Arabian billion dollar loans and investments here and there.

Do what is needed (reform the system, fight corruption, make yourself and your industries competitive) and foreign investment will occur automatically as every country and firm out there is looking to make a profit and Pakistan is largely an untapped market with big potential and cheap labor and costs. Many such countries out there that are wasting their potential - many Arab countries included.

I am a sincere well-wisher of Pakistan and a strong and prosperous Pakistan would benefit KSA and the Arab world (at least Arabia) greatly due to geographic proximity, people to people relations, historical, religious, cultural, linguistic etc. ties. The whole region benefits from this. Same with prosperous and stable neighborhood in general regardless of country which would increase mutual trade, trust-building measures and people to people relations.

Don't need to look that far. Look at the GCC or Europe post-WW2. Even India has done a good job (relatively speaking) to become an attractive investment destination. More reason for Pakistan to follow suit.
 
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