Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

[mythbuster]

Saudi Aircraft’s with Pakistani pilots (Americans won’t agree) then we will push Saudis to buy 2 squadrons of J-35s

Saudi aircrafts are American so you can rule that out..... second option is alluring like a [Redacted] beauty.

 

[Mr X]

Khaleeji Arabs all over social media are calling for Qatar to sign the same pact with Pakistan.

The rumour is, 2 Arab nations are interested in signing very similar agreement. I reckon it is Qatar and UAE

 

[Gripen9]

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[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Nuclear umbrella

And this is all i assume it to be for the time being. The mideast needs a nuclear umbrella to stop poaching. As I have said before... it will never be the Muslims destroying what is essentially theirs... it is and always be the verdict between the true mother and the false one. The true will never have part of her being cut into two all because the false one lost hers.
The pretenders have no qualms and no morality... riding the chosen cart they can and does label all the rest as lesser beings and weigh them on their scale of importance. They managed to break us out of our peace. The favor must be returned for a just recompense. It is that or they'll never stop in their quest for nihilism, as a charted destiny. Nukes offer a limited deterrence.

 

[A1Kaid]

Muslim NATO in the making.

 

[arsalan345]

One thing should be noted, the Saudi's didnt sign a defence pact with Egypt. Egypt still have a very credible military if I am right the largest conventional force in the Arab world. Pakistan is attractive for a few reasons, the Nuclear umbrella, and being backed and closely supported by China who lets be real is a super power itself today. I would not be suprised if later we hear China knew of this, FT is reporting the US was told after the signing.

yes because of nuclear weapons but that isn't priority of arabs. priority is trained airforce. They realized that israel has a good airforce and they might not be able to beat them. They needed protection. they saw videos of destroyed indian jets, i mean complete annihilation lol. they want an airforce that can destroy israeli jets so that they can feel comfortable and respected in the region. They lost credibility and respect in the region after israeli attack on qatar which was basically an israeli airforce attack. With our airforce in the region, it will be hard for israel to target any country. Arabs have so much weapons, god jets but they aren't well trained. give those toys to us and see the results.

nobody wants nuclear weapons but yes, arabs secretly wants it as last resort. first they want to humiliate israel by targeting their jets etc. If we train them and they fly with us, it would be incredible. it will be like a muslim NATO.

if we are playing cards carefully then they will order large number of weapons from china. this will be for our use on their soil. buy us weapons and we will use it against israel and india. someone is scared lol. indians are probably scared.

 

[Goenitz]

A lot of the commentary on this thread is speculation, as we don't have any knowledge of the specifics...Nor are we privy to them.

yar koi chokedari ka pact na nikal aaey

Anyway, there is much news it means the pact is for optics. If it has some substance, then it wd be strategic to keep it a priority and quiet.

 

[delta2]

As a demo ,test a nuke or two in a Saudi desert area, just to shake things up a little.

 

[A1Kaid]

Pakistan to setup military bases and weapon systems in KSA as per agreement.

 

[Bentley777]

Right. Qatar is not some country the rich GCC countries could ignore. Netanyahu's folly of attacking Qatar will hurt America and Israel's interests in the Middle East.

Hamid Mir, a credible Pakistani journalist, is calling the Saudi-Pakistani agreement a really big news--which it really is. AND he is also predicting two more countries are going to enter such an agreement with Pakistan.
BTW, to those who are discounting this agreement as nothing: Why have the Saudis signed off on such language now for the very first time in the long history of relationship between Pakistan and Saudi Arabia?? The Saudis know Pakistan's dire economic situation quite well , the Saudis know their commercial interests with India, and the Saudis know the hot wars between India and Pakistan. So why now after almost eight decades of relationship??

Here is the Hamid Mir video; I am disappointed they didn't enable English captions but what Mr. Mir is saying is said by several other here, including me. This is not some trivial development and is certainly tied with Netanyahu's folly of attacking Qatar.

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This defense agreement is pretty late tbh we all know from years Arabs don't have in them what is required to deter a Israel like mad dog. It's us who can fight an eye to eye especially we developed capabilities since independence for India which is just a temu version of Israelis and recently acknowledged wants to do behave like Israelis but every time they failed miserably Arabs have a pak type partner for a bang for buck . It's there loss if the can't take advantage of that.

 

[Watandar]

yar koi chokedari ka pact na nikal aaey

Anyway, there is much news it means the pact is for optics. If it has some substance, then it wd be strategic to keep it a priority and quiet.

Chowkidari ka naya contract hai , retired faujioun ko sab sai ziyada faida hoga. Raheel Sharif is making good money in Saudi and Ahmed Shuja Pasha in UAE. Others want in on the action. Aur kuch naheen.

 

[Goenitz]

Muslim NATO in the making.

too far fetch. In order to have such a thing, there should be people's mobility between countries and freedom of speech. Such things are forged when people protect them with a narrative and then physically or economically bound by it.

Take the example of Italy and Germany. Economically dependent, free trade, student exchange, co-production of military hardware, etc., but still have many differences. Nonetheless, Russian threat is there or not, the two nations will cooperate with each other.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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[arsalan345]

As a demo ,test a nuke or two in a Saudi desert area, just to shake things up a little.

personally, i love this type of aggressive tactics like attacking talibans, using chemical weapons on indians, destroying israeli fighter jets for no reason etc. sometimes wild things makes you stronger. i would love to hit civilian population of india.blood is necessary. i like how people cry. cry more. go and die somewhere hahaha. i remember israeli shelter videos. they were so scared and they were large in numbers. how to destroy those shelters? iran made many mistakes. hurt population if you want to hurt a country.

 

[delta2]

This defense agreement is pretty late tbh we all know from years Arabs don't have in them what is required to deter a Israel like mad dog. It's us who can fight an eye to eye especially we developed capabilities since independence for India which is just a temu version of Israelis and recently acknowledged wants to do behave like Israelis but every time they failed miserably Arabs have a pak type partner for a bang for buck . It's there loss if the can't take advantage of that.

Not a good idea to look at things in absolute terms.

If the KSA has a nuclear capability that is more than enough.