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[Respect4Respect]

ffs just a idiom

Would you be okay if someone used that "idiom" against your father or family members?

 

[Watandar]

Oh Bahi please stop it... It's about recent events especially regarding khans kursi loss and his promise to make riasat e Medina...
If according to your theory army bringing religion was mistake then why the Khan made the same mistake?
Shows you a lot about a person ..
Khan is careless and carelessness can be fatal for country...
Dont believe me... Want a trailer?
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Look Modi promised Hindus that he will make India their version of holy land... Indians love him majority do... But look what Modi have done to India ... One stupid mistake against Trump and look at him now...
Now what if khan's recklessness causes harm to PAKISTAN? Sanctions, foreign relations fked and icing on top Khan giving lectures speech everyday like we didn't know how to live didn't know how to speak or think or walk or eat or drink or sleep or work or marry or have children or manage families. We didn't know nothing Khan will do that show us how not to be corrupt how to responsible citizens how to be willing to give sacrifice for country when it matters...
Insanity of the highest ORDER

Why can army use religion in politics but Imran Khan cannot ?

Why can army be utterly reckless with economy, political stability and foreign policy but Imran Khan alleged recklessness is problematic ?

Army can steal elections and kidnap and torture people and shoot political workers on the streets but Imran Khan is the national security threat ?

These double standards wont work anymore.

 

[SaadH]

Mujib actually won general elections 1970 with a huge margin. If he was a "traitor", so were the majority of Pakistani voters who had elected him!
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Khooni liberals are also racists of the highest order, for them dark skinned Bengali Mujeeb and his mandate were irrelevant in comparison to the lighter skinned Bhutto who was an ideal tyrant.

 

[Forsvaret]

Point to note here is, First DGISPR press conference after the CDF Notification is totally anti IK aand PTI etc.

The real point to be noted here is if that CDF notification was even issued on the condition that armed forces of Pakistan now take anti IK / PTI stance openly in public as they just did in that DG ISPR presser?

 

[Abdul q]

Why can army use religion in politics but Imran Khan cannot ?

Why can army be utterly reckless with economy, political stability and foreign policy but Imran Khan alleged recklessness is problematic ?

Army can steal elections and kidnap and torture people and shoot political workers on the streets but Imran Khan is the national security threat ?

These double standards wont work anymore.

Bhae go talk to your tree outside now that would understand common sense better than them….

 

[unconventional]

If the only country that matters (on the ground) doesn’t accept Durand line as an international border, how does all the other countries recognizing it "helps" in changing the ground reality? How is this situation any different from say all countries in the world recognizing the State of Palestine except the one country that really matters: Israel!

Yes, you’re just proving my point: just like Palestinians can’t negotiate with Israel because of the settlements in the West Bank, Pakistan cannot negotiate with Afghanistan as long as they keep claiming KPK and Balochistan as part of Pakistan.

Your analogy also falls flat because most nations in the world accept the State of Palestine along 1967 lines, whereas all countries in the world (except Afghanistan) recognize the Durand Line as the international border between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

 

[SaadH]

He released abhinanbread immediately. That was his only input.

So IK must've dragged that duffer Mir Bajwa by his big a$$ ears wet pant et al and made him release Abhinandan. Why didn't the mighty duffers with a million men under arms, refused this highly treasonous order of security threat Imran Khan.

 

[unconventional]

It was just an hypothetical scenario because if Pakistan is to make arch enemies out of all of its immediate neighbors, then it must be living in some fool’s paradise.

Lots of ifs and hypotheticals in your posts, not enough substance

 

[unconventional]

I dont remember ZAB kicking off a major Islamization drive or building madrassas all over the country or using mullahs as proxies.

https://www.nytimes.com/1986/08/10/world/the-islamization-of-pakistan-still-moving-slowly-and-still-stirring-debate.html

Bhutto was the first to introduce systematic, state-backed Islamization policies in a modern political sense.

• Declared Friday the official weekly holiday (1977)
• Banned alcohol and gambling
• Cracked down on Ahmadis under pressure from the street (1974)
• Introduced “Islamic socialism” rhetoric
• Started Sharia-compliant banking initiatives
• Used religious symbolism to undercut opposition (e.g., calling opponents “anti-Islamic forces”)

 

[Forsvaret]

I don't understand why his sister would send a message to Media that IK said Asim Munir is mental and the rest.

Because IK himself wants to send out those messages from his prison cell. He wants the world to know that Hazrat Asim Munir can only imprison his body but never his ideas. His strategy seems to be working so far, given the frustration of military establishment as we witnessed earlier today…

 

[unconventional]

Because IK himself wants to send out those messages from his prison cell. He wants the world to know that Hazrat Asim Munir can only imprison his body but never his ideas. His strategy seems to be working so far, given the frustration of military establishment as we witnessed earlier today…

How has it translated to support on the ground for him, and opposition to the military?

 

[gamaji]

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Look at what this enemy mole in Pakistan, Imran Ahmed Khotakhail, has been doing all along.

• He is running a sustained malicious and slandering campaign against the military and its command, trying to sow the mutiny in the ranks and file, and inciting Pakistani people against military.
• This filthy ghaddar has been idealizing another ghaddar Sheikh Mujibur Rahman (1971) to his brainless youthias.
• He's been talking of Pakistan getting divided into three pieces, and also of Pakistan getting nuked.
• Declaring that those who attended the NDU workshop are ghaddar is a serious attempt to create a wedge between the people of Pakistan and their military.

Imran Ahmed Khotakhail has gone way beyond the limit in abetting and promoting hatred in Pakistani public towards Pakistan's military, creating mutiny in it, and creating another Libya in Pakistan - all with full support from Pakistan's external enemies. It's exactly the enemy's agenda and this internal enemy is clearly working in cohesion with Pakistan's external enemies.

As mentioned in the press briefing, the sole job of an army is to offer (own) life or take (enemy's) life. This internal enemy has brought the situation to a point that army has to do its job.

This is finally the time that this lowlife evil be treated as an actual and treacherous enemy that deserves to mercy.

 

[Watandar]

Bhutto was the first to introduce systematic, state-backed Islamization policies in a modern political sense.

• Declared Friday the official weekly holiday (1977)
• Banned alcohol and gambling
• Cracked down on Ahmadis under pressure from the street (1974)
• Introduced “Islamic socialism” rhetoric
• Started Sharia-compliant banking initiatives
• Used religious symbolism to undercut opposition (e.g., calling opponents “anti-Islamic forces”)

ZAB engaged in populism with an Islamic touch only. Formal Islamization of Pakistan started with Zia Ul Haq coup in 1977, comprising ordinances, laws, economic, education and societal changes and even a deceitful referendum on whether Pakistanis wanted all this or not.

Islamisation in Pakistan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[PK781]

lolz
man, Asif Ghafoor ended up being the last dg ispr that got massive respect and love from all the people......everyone after him has been a disaster.

IK himself was assisted by the same army to power in a minority govt. So all these actors are in it together, its really a bad impression when u talk about someone in jail already for years. (i'm not even a supporter of ANY of the rulers) so this is really really bad optics.....

I think the main frustration is based on the shitty economy, and the fact that nothing much of importance is happening on economic front, cpec not performing, countries not willing to give money anymore, not big loans,,,,,,,rather all the MNCs are leaving and people are hopeless.......everything is in shambles.

To top it off, the proxies of india/afg are creating instability in the country bcaz these guys showed unnecessary RESTRAINTS to the snake-heads.....and still not willing to finish the job.....(they keep listening to qataris, saudis, turks, etc and not taking action against afg)

Real thing = money is dried up, not coming into country, even Pakistanis not investing in their own country, our businessmen have setup in foreign countries already.......sab ne itna khaa liya ke ab kuch b nahi bacha.........economy is in tatters and surviving on IMF totally.
Parliament/senate, judiciary, bureaucracy, politicians and mil estb have ruined the country and its economy........even Africa has surpassed Pakistan in development.......

The only "development" Pakistanis got was more access to mobile phones/internet data, tiktok, farcebook and so many fast foods. Bas ye taraqqi hui hai. (wo b har waqt slow kerdiya jata hai, in the name of security).

Seems there is infighting within the establishment due to ALMOST bankruptcy

 

[Forsvaret]

The plan to turn people against army will not work and it will be the downfall of whoever does it.

Please help me understand who is making this "plan" to turn people against army? Who is in the army? Is it not ordinary people of Pakistan? How can they turn against something they’re all a part of themselves?
Yes, calling Hazrat Asim Munir mentally ill is IK’s right as he is put there in prison on his orders to begin with! This undisputed fact has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of professional army.