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Do you think PTI has a future without Imran Khan?

  • Yes

    Votes: 22 19.6%
  • No

    Votes: 80 71.4%
  • Only if senior leadership is released

    Votes: 10 8.9%

  • Total voters
    112
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I was wondering why ISPR reacted that way, then read that moronic tweet, couldn't blame them.....
Killing Pakistanis in front of Parliament and on the road and steering election. You don't need to blame them right? Are you even good human?
 
The Judiciary is not some angels descended from the sky. And by now it is crystal clear to most thinking Pakistanis.
I don't dispute your post.
Thank you for understanding my posts..

Imran did a lot of mistakes and his supporters even criticised him for what he was doing during his tenure. It doesn't give the right to anyone to rig the elections and bring the judiciary of his own choice.

IK's supporters like me were wrong before, and we happily accept that we were on the wrong side of the history.

The question is, whether an independent judiciary is possible in Pakistan? Forget about Imran for a moment.. what has happened in Pakistan, no politician is safe from the wrath of just one individual.

I firmly believe that Imran khan would have lost the 2023 elections had he not been removed in 2022. Even I was not planning to vote for him in the next elections. His popularity was at rock bottom.

I can't fathom why the institution is so shortsighted.
 
You are assuming that the Pakistani military and intelligence hosted him without the knowledge of the civilian government.

Donald Rumsfeld, who was a US Defense Secretary, himself came boldly to defend Pakistan on the OBL Raid.
But Indians keep bringing that up--and along with using Mujib ur Rehman to target Pakistan--the traitorous Imran Cultists are also using the OBL raid to target Pakistan. I don't know why people can't see the cancer of cultism which has infected so many Pakistanis, especially the expats?!!
 
Killing Pakistanis in front of Parliament and on the road and steering election. You don't need to blame them right? Are you even good human?
other tweets also wasn't jibran ilyas a literal cia agent , sad to see you fall for cia propaganda
 
Donald Rumsfeld, who was a US Defense Secretary, himself came boldly to defend Pakistan on the OBL Raid.
But Indians keep bringing that up--and along with using Mujib ur Rehman to target Pakistan--the traitorous Imran Cultists are also using the OBL raid to target Pakistan. I don't know why people can't see the cancer of cultism which has infected so many Pakistanis, especially the expats?!!
as mushi said isi can also make mistakes just like cia did in 911
 
When the military man said "tum ho koon", it was directed to the people.

They consider you subservient. They consider themselves sovereign. They are arrogant.

Arrogance is best dealt with through brutality. An uprising.


I actually trust and admire Imran khan ...his good man ..I hope he survives and leads Pakistan one day

When you have military officiald taking politics it's a disaster waiting to unfold guaranteed
 
I can't fathom why the institution is so shortsighted.
real , very real . that is what happens when a military retard make your decision on politics or . they always get it wrong .
when some guy requires immediate termination they wait and try to control him ( and fail eg ttp , mujib) , and when a problem can be solved by just waiting and letting things take course they try to terminate immediately
 
How conveniently you ignored the rest of my post; but let me answer your question first.

You are assuming that the Pakistani military and intelligence hosted him without the knowledge of the civilian government.

Btw, if you go by the US government statements at the time (this was a time they were not afraid to criticize Pakistan openly and name call them), they saw no complicity of any Pakistani state institution in Abbottabad.

Also about the war on terror, Pakistan has operated a hybrid model throughout most of its history, with the only exceptions being the dictatorships of Zia, and early years of Musharraf.

So if you are saying Pakistan played a double game in the WOT (which they did not, and I can debate that, but this is not the thread for it), then the civilian government were equally complicit.
If OBL was in Pakistan without the knowledge of our institutions, I have serious doubts on even my existence.

And if you say that Taliban took over Afghanistan without Pakistan's help, then believe that they are here to stay. Pakistan won't be able to do much about them.
 
Thank you for understanding my posts..

Imran did a lot of mistakes and his supporters even criticised him for what he was doing during his tenure. It doesn't give the right to anyone to rig the elections and bring the judiciary of his own choice.

IK's supporters like me were wrong before, and we happily accept that we were on the wrong side of the history.

The question is, whether an independent judiciary is possible in Pakistan? Forget about Imran for a moment.. what has happened in Pakistan, no politician is safe from the wrath of just one individual.

I firmly believe that Imran khan would have lost the 2023 elections had he not been removed in 2022. Even I was not planning to vote for him in the next elections. His popularity was at rock bottom.

I can't fathom why the institution is so shortsighted.
There is no independent judiciary anywhere in the world and there had never been.....get out of this MSM type intellectualism if you want to make any meaningful contribution.
 
I actually trust and admire Imran khan ...his good man ..I hope he survives and leads Pakistan one day
When you have military officiald taking politics it's a disaster waiting to unfold guaranteed

Of course you Indians do!! If your A. Kejriwal, the anarchist, were to cause anarchy all over India then Pakistanis would support Kejriwal because he would be 'our man' in India just like Imran is India's man in Pakistan!
You ain't here fooling anyone about 'democracy' or 'rule of law' and you know that.
 
Oh, your delusions continue!! Talk to me and @VCheng in a couple of weeks. But you forgot to bring the Gaza connection this time?!!!

He is following what the Youtubers are claiming. Its like back in the days of Dr Tahir ul qadri March. According to ARY digital government collapse was imminent, Geo was claiming opposition has only a few thousand people on the streets and PTV was showing as if everything is normal, the March and all the noise didnt even exist 😄 one of my friend told me to change channel and watch geo and ptv for a few hours, I was surprised since I was clued to ARY.

The same happened when Pti came, Pmln and PPP used to say Pti and Pat have handlers, ie establishment.
Alot of young people who called Dr Tahir ul qadri a trouble making mullah suddenly saw Imran Khan riding on a white horse fell in love. They suddenly claimed revolution is coming 🤣 (i did too lol). I was like just a few months back you were calling Tahir ul Qadri trouble maker and now IK is labelled as hero, whatever he is saying is the nothing but the truth.

You see we humans like to be part of something, like a tribe and those youth who were frustrated with Ppp and Pmln suddenly found a saviour, a purpose in their lives. Our elders fell for Nawaz Sharif charisma and Benazir the innocent beti of Zulfiqar, kaum ki beti educated from Oxford.

In another 20 years the next generation may see saviour in someone like Bilawal, the good son of a Zardari, the son of Benazir. 1970s Bhutto and Mujib, 20 years on 1990s Benazir and Nawaz, another 20 years 2010s Imran Khan.
 
I think Imran will fit right in Afghanistan.
Watch this very creative video--even has English captions.
Hahahahahahahhaah!!!

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IK shows every symptoms of a Narcissist, he when in power turn Punjab population because of that idiot Buzdar, than not a single thing he did for Karachi the literal wallet of Pakistan, he thought himself that he could change the system in few months without first becoming a national leader, in fact his popularity was due to the same people who today he and his youthiye are cursing, he is now playing on the pushtoon card, and given how low IQ pushtoons are they are burning their own cities for this cartoon, just like they are busy in blowing half of Pakistan for Chutiyapa reasons, people of KPK always stood wrong side of history and everyone in Pakistan have that " Let it go, they are not all bad people " attitude towards them but given how Pushtoons of Pakistan has killed more Pakistani's than India/America/Thanos combined, so people of KPK supporting IK doesn't surprise me, when people have innate bias and racism embedded from the day they are born, they are taught to hate other Pakistani's and culture where violence is not only supported but Glorified, than IK support base from those areas doesn't surprise me one bit.
 
There is no independent judiciary anywhere in the world and there had never been.....get out of this MSM type intellectualism if you want to make any meaningful contribution.

In America, the nominations of the Supreme Court Judges is one of the topmost contentious issues!!!
 
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