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Do you think PTI has a future without Imran Khan?

  • Yes

    Votes: 22 19.6%
  • No

    Votes: 80 71.4%
  • Only if senior leadership is released

    Votes: 10 8.9%

  • Total voters
    112
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A most telling part of Imran's sacrifices, as @VCheng pointed out some pages ago: Imran's sons barely saw him even when Imran was the Prime Minister of Pakistan and have barely been to Pakistan or even spoken for Imran since Imran's incarceration. A VERY telling indicator about Imran's family ties!! Just think about that.
Apparently, Pinki Peerni wouldn't allow Cartoon-e-Azam Imran Khan to visit the UK even on an official visit. She had such hypnotic control over him. Nuts.
 
A most telling part of Imran's sacrifices, as @VCheng pointed out some pages ago: Imran's sons barely saw him even when Imran was the Prime Minister of Pakistan and have barely been to Pakistan or even spoken for Imran since Imran's incarceration. A VERY telling indicator about Imran's family ties!! Just think about that.

It is amazing how little thought Pakistanis put into this topic. Let's not go into Imran's illicit child from Ms. Sita White; I have no proof on that. But let's consider that Imran is on his 3rd marriage and that he married a Witch Wife with 4 kids and that he went from Jemima Khan to Reham Khan to this Witch Wife and that his own sons barely ever seen for him or even visited with him while Imran was the Prime Minister of Pakistan. The threats to the sons might be there now but were they there when Imran was the Prime Minister of Pakistan, backed no less by the Pakistani military?? I think not. Tells you what kind of 'family' attachments Imran is capable of. And the one who can't have family attachments, can't be attached to a 'nation'.
 
A most telling part of Imran's sacrifices, as @VCheng pointed out some pages ago: Imran's sons barely saw him even when Imran was the Prime Minister of Pakistan and have barely been to Pakistan or even spoken for Imran since Imran's incarceration. A VERY telling indicator about Imran's family ties!! Just think about that.

Well if we're awfully concerned about Khans relation with his sons, we should also look into how can a kid pop out after just 4 months of marriage.
 
You guys, in your Imran Khan God Worshipping Syndrome, just go too far: General Zia ul Haq wanted the cricketer Imran Khan to come back to play for Pakistan because Pakistan needed Imran as a cricketer then; Imran had some 'injury' and wanted to 'retire'. Nothing more. Nothing less. And that was in the mid 80s and Imran's political rise didn't start until early 2010s, duly helped by the military of Pakistan.
Why do you guys damage your credibility with such bizarre posts?!!
Dude did you not read what I wrote ? He thought army guys were a bunch of morons in the 80s. I clearly remember his interviews ..heavily critical of generals running BCCP. In one speech he said that army generals do not have brains to think strategically. Fast forward to Musharraf era, he was the only one who had the balls to challenge Musharraf in the war of terror …he was openly critical of the army action in the tribal areas and was openly defying the drone attacks ..he was the only one doing that while the rest of us brainswashed lot were singing to the tune of Zia and Musharraf. He was no tout …people who know him get what I am talking about
 
Your post should be 'Pinned' or 'Bookmarked' for its far reaching consequences for Pakistan. Alas, some here, though hopefully in decreasing numbers, fail to see a 10AM-4PM scheduling Prime Minister of Pakistan into his 3rd marriage, and that too with a witch-craft practicing mom of 4 kids was ruining some of the most vital of Pakistan's foreign relations. But then their Messiah Khan was born with a golden spoon and much of his existing supporters in the Western blogspace are also the counterparts of golden spooned one: The Reza Shah Pelahavi Brigade of Pakistan!!! They couldn't care less what more would befall the already befallen poor of Pakistan.

Looking at IK's personal relationships reveal a pattern of sacrificing all of them for gaining power and influence, as and when it suited him. That also gives an idea of the prism through which he viewed Pakistan's international relationships as serving him rather than the country - a sort of third world mini-Trumpian view, as it were.

That background explains why he is now finding it difficult to gain traction domestically as well as internationally. Like I say, actions have consequences.
 
Regardless, his age isnt the only thing against him because it is driving that ego - at this time his mrs needs to be pushed out of the narrative permanently and his sisters/sons need to come in - keep the pressure on the current incumbent but also start a "meet me halfway" campaign with them.

Nothing should be pushed or forced at this stage IMO. Let us give IK all the time that he may want to contemplate his present situation and plan out a future course of action. There is absolutely no rush.
 
A most telling part of Imran's sacrifices, as @VCheng pointed out some pages ago: Imran's sons barely saw him even when Imran was the Prime Minister of Pakistan and have barely been to Pakistan or even spoken for Imran since Imran's incarceration. A VERY telling indicator about Imran's family ties!! Just think about that.

As I said above, IK's life shows a distinct pattern of sacrificing his relationships for personal gains of power and influence, as and when it suited him. It shows the nature of the man quite well.
 
Lovely to see the misogyny on full display on this thread.

No wonder UK is a breeding ground for grooming gangs.
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I can feel your pain: So many dreams shattered. Tsk. Tsk. Tsk!! BTW, I don't mind you call me a 'military tout': I am an unabashed supporter of the Pakistani military and of the current ruling setup. However, you calling VCheng a 'military tout' is unfair. He is anything but that. But he is right in questioning the 'democratic' credentials of your Stupid and Arrogant Messiah Khan--a cowardly 'leader' who could not even face a simple NCM vote! Democratic my a$$!!
Oh, Imran indeed is a product of the military and would no doubt lick the military boots again if he senses an opportunity.
Democracy is not about credentials its about choice


In democratic frame work,
Anyone who thinks that he knows better then what the people isnt a Democrat

If people voted someone in then anyone who is questioning the Democratic credentials by definition is a tout of whatever setup is going on. You can call IK whatever but you cant call your self democrat and simultaneously questioning the "credentials" or rights of that person

This is by definition what a military tout is, the only additional thing you add on is "hypocrisy"..so you trying to charge an additional thing on Honorable Mr Cheng
 
Oh, Imran indeed is a product of the military and would no doubt lick the military boots again if he senses an opportunity.

Indeed. Perfectly said.

This begs the question how much of the current "determination" is actually the lack of that very opportunity?
 
Lovely to see the misogyny on full display on this thread.
Our (Asian) extremist pov spans beyond borders. That is why we tackle political problems/social issues with violence. Sikh/Hindu fights in Canada/Australia, honour killings, Bondi Beach, etc. Domestically, cow lunching, suppression of Ahmedis/Hindus/Muslims, etc.
Its no longer on offer or an option for PTI simply because PTI went too far in following a mentally ill psychopath who wished for an atom bomb to be dropped on Pakistan than to see another political party govern Pakistan.
I don't think the window is ever closed. If NS has shared agent names with Gujral, admitted to Clinton that the Army has deployed N.weapons, confessed that the Mumbai attack originated from Pak, involved in money laundering and corruption, etc and still got accepted, then everything is possible.
Nonetheless, IK will not follow that path as he stayed in Pak to fight.
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If people voted someone in then anyone who is questioning the Democratic credentials by definition is a tout of whatever setup is going on. You can call IK whatever but you cant call your self democrat and simultaneously questioning the "credentials" or rights of that person

You are free to call me a 'military tout'. I don't hide my current ruling preferences for Pakistan; similarly, calling certain Pakistanis here 'Cultists' is also appropriate, IMO. As for you referring to VCheng in your post, it is up to him to respond to. But, to repeat, he is certainly not a 'military tout'.
As to the 'democratic credentials' of Imran Khan: I give no such credit to a guy who couldn't even face a Const. requirement of a No Confidence Motion. You, like me, live in America, right? Imagine if Trump were to refuse to accept the election results in January 2021 and wouldn't leave the White House. What would happen to him then? He would be dragged out of the WH by the Federal Marshals! Elections and NCM Votes are all too often labelled 'controversial' but they are still binding requirements as part of 'democracy'. And in case of your Messiah Khan, it was an Open and Shut case of violating the Const. of Pakistan when he threw away the NCM in April 2022.
 
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