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[Zarvan]

With IAF ordering 114 Rafale F4.1s and 36 Su-57M things are looking even bleaker for PAF.

Dude everything will be answered

 

[side-winder]

Rafale isn't a threat, 175 of them are very easy targets for the 20 J-10Cs which also have better aircraft availability rates and better sortie-generation rates than Rafales, and are also better protected by air defence systems to prevent a cruise/ballistic missile to punch holes through their hangars, Rafales meanwhile can be easily destroyed in their hangars due to poor Indian air defence system which doesn't even have dedicated ballistic missile defence which they enjoy.

On top of it Navy might order 31 more of Ra-fails to complete requirement for 57 of MRCBFs as TEDBF has no future, not to mention entire INS Vikrant CBG can be easily sunk as well. We're doomed.

8-0 is the score, IAF and IN will always remain grounded and remain hidden far away.

Ah look at you - trying to be cool with your sarcasm.

Guess who proved to be delutional in reality every time - be 2019 or 2025.

"Su-30 The Asian Raptor - single one will eat up whole squadron of PAF F16s."

"S400 - PAF planes won't even be able to take off from their bases"

"Rafale - it's an overkill for a tiny airforce like PAF, it's only to counter the PLAAF".

Thankfully our side doesn't remain in delusions - does their homework and delivers when it matters - unlike yours - twisting excuses from "political constraints" to "we didn't know the true range of their weapons" - from "AMRAAM dodgers" to "PL-15 dodgers" - from "we intercepted all CM400s" to "2-4 weapon unkay usi jaga pe giray jahan hmara system pehly tha" to "launchers caught fire due to technical glitch" ----- A long list to follow.

 

[harpy1]

The Indian air force only want Rafales they envisage that's all.they need alongside upgraded Mki and Tejas until Amca comes in 2035 -2040... The Indians are inducting new generation radars that track stealth fighters from along way out

They will rely and multi layered ballistic missiles air defense to maintain air supremacy over all. The india Pak borders and Kashmir

The Rafale is being brought to add deeper longer range strike from.within India ...in far bigger numbers...Air defense is secondary

The government are pushing Su57m1 into air force now to appease putin..
Russians are in nasik plants to see how they can upgrade su30mki plants to start licence manufacturing of future variants of Su57m in India

This is threat to Amca

I don't think India can afford both

 

[Trailer23]

Rafale isn't a threat, 175 of them are very easy targets for the 20 J-10Cs which also have better aircraft availability rates and better sortie-generation rates than Rafales, and are also better protected by air defence systems to prevent a cruise/ballistic missile to punch holes through their hangars, Rafales meanwhile can be easily destroyed in their hangars due to poor Indian air defence system which doesn't even have dedicated ballistic missile defence which they enjoy.

On top of it Navy might order 31 more of Ra-fails to complete requirement for 57 of MRCBFs as TEDBF has no future, not to mention entire INS Vikrant CBG can be easily sunk as well. We're doomed.

8-0 is the score, IAF and IN will always remain grounded and remain hidden far away.

Oh bhai kya hogaya hai...?

Whats with all the @SS ...

Look, we didn't ask you to open the World's Largest & only Rafale Used Parts Scrapyard.

I'm sure you've been on your own Forums where all of your kind had/has been talking about the junk China has been giving us, right...

Odd, all those Grounded JF-17's with Engine issues all of a sudden became operational.

Now you gotta wonder..., what else does China have to offer us.

Anyways, relax yaar... There is a solution for that

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With IAF ordering 114 Rafale F4.1s and 36 Su-57M things are looking even bleaker for PAF.

Oh my God...., we should start panicking. Beta, your own Defence Analyst have called the Su-57 a bust. I'll be happy to share the video with you. And we have all seen what the Rafale can...or should I say can't do.

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@harpy1
@BonPlan (Indian-French)

 

[RescueRanger]

Funny how Mods seem to be OK with this

Please use report feature to bring trouble posts to our attention. We can't scan all threads .

 

[Yasser76]

Please use report feature to bring trouble posts to our attention. We can't scan all threads .

Will do yaar

 

[Lulldapull]

Honestly i don't think it's needed the whole world has already bought our claims of 5/6 kills on the night of 7th may and all the available information has already been discussed in depth on every forum imaginable. Personally, I'll prefer @Quwa and others to focus on the cracks on our side which they are doing eg: air defense,lack of preemptive strikes,low production capacity and the future threat of saturated attacks of which we saw the trailer this time.

Plenty of talent and great UAV designs and L/M's........Outstanding prototypes and small production runs like depot level small manufacturing.

Like @Quwa mentioned........no large investors nor marketers nor any infra to support budding new tech start ups.

Let me tell you, most of these young kids will leave and continue their work overseas and we'll be left with a talent gap.

We can't retain talent bhai........

 

[Quwa]

I was hoping Bilal bhai provides a more balanced review on Sindoor/ claims/ kills/ losses, and he beats this Austrian Tom Cooper to the punch.....and presents our perspective on the campaign.

Anyway........missed opportunity.

I know this last war didn't go well for us since we were surprised by the Indians.

Hopefully the Iranis are watching and learning and hopefully issue a day by day/ blow by blow account of Operation Rising Lion, before an Israeli issues a new book.

@Quwa @shapurzolaktaf @Persian Gulf @Hack-Hook @Kyussis

Problem is that we don't have access to the PAF at any level to really inquire. I'd love to craft an ironclad message, but I can't do it from arms length. Guys like Shiv Aroor, Vishnu Som, etc, will get tours and debriefs from IAF, PAF can't be bothered to even officially talk to one of the top Eng language, Western voices on Pak.

Quwa will bring 1 M visitors this year iA, running on whatever money it generates independently and the crumbs of info the Pak forces release.

If we had 1/10 the access Alan Warnes can get, we'd deliver. We'd ask tough questions, not to berate them but to ensure whatever gets out is airtight in proofs, logic, and consistency, and debunks whatever is out there.

 

[Lulldapull]

Problem is that we don't have access to the PAF at any level to really inquire. I'd love to craft an ironclad message, but I can't do it from arms length. Guys like Shiv Aroor, Vishnu Som, etc, will get tours and debriefs from IAF, PAF can't be bothered to even officially talk to one of the top Eng language, Western voices on Pak.

Quwa will bring 1 M visitors this year iA, running on whatever money it generates independently and the crumbs of info the Pak forces release.

If we had 1/10 the access Alan Warnes can get, we'd deliver. We'd ask tough questions, not to berate them but to ensure whatever gets out is airtight in proofs, logic, and consistency, and debunks whatever is out there.

Bilal bhai, the state hand......that benevolent hand not supporting the local start ups via funding/ grants with peer reviewed content/ output.

This is a huge issue......

Irani gubment doing it with their universities/ tech start ups/ private ventures/ Tech parks where you present your research and secure a grant for R&D and they got their killer Khorramshehr -5 missile which brought Israel down on its knees in the last 4 days of 'Operation Rising Lion'.......with its cluster warheads. How many satellites have they produced n launched? And what have we done?

You know they far ahead in this game than we can ever be.

Their drone/ missile/ AI weaponry/ Space programs half a century ahead of ours.

 

[Blain2]

Every single adversary aircraft is a threat. Rafales will be potent adversaries even if PAF inducts J-35s because they are multi/omni-role platforms.
The J-10 + J-35 + upgraded F-16 fleet will need to managed carefully. These are three different types of aircraft with varying capabilities arrayed against an Indian front-line inventory of Rafales, Su-30MKI and Tejas taking over from Fulcrums, Mirages etc.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

Every single adversary aircraft is a threat. Rafales will be potent adversaries even if PAF inducts J-35s because they are multi/omni-role platforms.
The J-10 + J-35 + upgraded F-16 fleet will need to managed carefully. These are three different types of aircraft with varying capabilities arrayed against an Indian front-line inventory of Rafales, Su-30MKI and Tejas taking over from Fulcrums, Mirages etc.

and why did you ignored the JF-17? are they not competent enough atleast for the tejas and su30s?

 

[Blain2]

With IAF ordering 114 Rafale F4.1s and 36 Su-57M things are looking even bleaker for PAF.

Iqbal comes to mind:
"Momin hai tau betaigh bhi larta hai sipahee".

 

[Blain2]

and why did you ignored the JF-17? are they not competent enough atleast for the tejas and su30s?

Accidentally. More meaningful than the current F-16 fleet and yes, very potent and available in numbers.

 

[PK781]

We will just order some more PL15 and PL17 and PL21 for the job in the next round.
plus the tactical weapons need to be tested

 

[Yasser76]

Pros and cons with Rafale

Pros

Still a very good plane and Meteor is a good missile

French are reliable

Gives India decent numbers

India has infrastructure

Cons

PAF know this bird like the back of their hand, not just the shoot downs but the jamming a few days before that forced them to fly back, also trains with Qatari Rafales

Expensive for what it is. 1 Rafale - 2 F-16V/Gripen E

Long order wait, even assuming Dassault can ramp up more

No stealth




Cons slightly outweigh the pros here.....