How long do you think Russia need to take Donbas?
It wouldn't be in a few years. as I lay out the Russian progress using current data as a prediction, it would be 16-20 years for them to take Donbas
I understand what you mean but look at it this way, Sievierodonetsk, Bakhmut, Advivka, Soledar, all were occupied with huge losses, but they also were fortified over a span of 8 years, many among em key logistical hubs, Pokrovsk is soon gonna get occupied, and it was heavily fortified and was being used as a staging point, Niu York is already done.
My point was, all of these heavily fortified cities, altough their pre-war population was small, they still are the main fortifications and they are getting overrun. After them, Kursk like scenario would play out with open fields and not the...
If this is the primary objective, and everything else second, then Ukraine would have been able to seriously be entrenched in Kursk and it would be REALLY tough for Russia to kick them out, even giving the Ukrainian 4 months to dig-in in Kursk is fatal. By the way, Russia had already pull 56 VDV regiment (from Zaporizhia) and 11 VDV Brigade (from Charsiv Yar) to Kursk, confirmed by Russian milblog telegram channel. And 2 Brigade is not going to be enough for Kursk
Which mean Russia is going to need to deal with both at the same time, the sooner the better, and there are no more advance in Vovchansk, that offensive is long spent, conventional military common sense dictate they should have withdrawn from there before winter because there is no anchoring point still even after 3 months, don't be daft.
We find it astonishing that Ukraine has voluntarily extended the front with Russia. Because an extension of the front is in Russia's interest due to the weakened Ukraine.
The Ukrainians in Kursk. Are to Russian advantage. Keeps them away from important theatres and they can more easily be processed as POWs when their government agrees to capitulate.
To sum up the situation. The Ukies at a cost of over a thousand casualties so far and the loss of hundreds of vehicles have established a bridgehead of no military value. They are now, and will have to continue, feed more men and material into this fire sack to avoid a PR disaster. I predict the Russians will be in no hurry to shut down this enclave as it is and will continue, to swallow up the men and material so badly needed by the retreating Uki forces in The Donbas dudes.