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Bryansk, Kursk, Belgorod In Danger
Ukraine Preparing For A Breakthrough
Military Summary 2024.08.22
Russia-Ukraine War - News, Discussions & Updates
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Maybe that's best for everyone, Russia was hardly a great nation to begin with, Russia is using migration from central Asia as a crutch at the moment to keep the economy going
Whilst official figures have not been released, off record news coming from central Asia at the moment, is hefty wages for men willing to fight for Russia, including citizenship for them and their families including extended families who are getting easy work visas and access
Thinking from OUR perspective, this works out fine
China as you said is probably more then happy to allow Russia to butt heads with the west and China is on the rise
However, Russia by the looks of it is in this for the long haul, I don't see them backing off, they will take the Donbass and keep going
It will take them 10+ years just to take Donbas, that is if we go by the current progress and everything goes Russia way (ie no Ukrainian counter attack within this timeframe).
As I said there are no way Russia can win in this, because like it or not, they have to take the entire Ukraine to win this, any lull in fighting will see Ukraine going for that NATO membership, and seeing Ukraine using everything NATO at the moment, they aren't going to let Ukraine go.......
The RUAF are just doing their thing. The AFU are the ones running around Kursk like headless chickens hoping to get something done. The primary objective hasn't changed: Liberate the Donbass. The new secondary objective is: Kick out AFU from Kursk. And then they will most likely advance on Volchansk and Sumy, consolidating the third objective, which is to create the buffer zone.
How long do you think Russia need to take Donbas?
It wouldn't be in a few years. as I lay out the Russian progress using current data as a prediction, it would be 16-20 years for them to take Donbas
If this is the primary objective, and everything else second, then Ukraine would have been able to seriously be entrenched in Kursk and it would be REALLY tough for Russia to kick them out, even giving the Ukrainian 4 months to dig-in in Kursk is fatal. By the way, Russia had already pull 56 VDV regiment (from Zaporizhia) and 11 VDV Brigade (from Charsiv Yar) to Kursk, confirmed by Russian milblog telegram channel. And 2 Brigade is not going to be enough for Kursk
Which mean Russia is going to need to deal with both at the same time, the sooner the better, and there are no more advance in Vovchansk, that offensive is long spent, conventional military common sense dictate they should have withdrawn from there before winter because there is no anchoring point still even after 3 months, don't be daft.
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A WAR MORE THAN 30 YEARS IN THE FORMENTING BY THAT MAIN AXIS OF EVIL USA
t.me
One of the biggest deceptions in the West is that the US only started "supporting" Ukraine after Russian troops finally crossed the border in February 2022.
The "Unprovoked invasion" line is peddled continually by Westen client Media, so let's have a look at the facts and then decide if Russias actions were indeed "Unprovoked"
The truth is that as far back as the 1940s-1950s The CIA established "close contacts" with the Organisation of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) and the Ukrainian Rebel Army (UPA) two groups of brutal Nazi collaborators (now widely celebrated as heroes in Dictator Zelenskys Ukraine) and perpetrators of unspeakable massacres of Jews, Poles and Russians alongside their Nazi allies in WW2
The CIA provided them with weapons, cash, support, and training in an effort to destabilize Ukraine and promote Ukrainian ultra nationalism
Then, In the 1950s, the CIA launched "Operation Aerodynamic", which aimed to support Banderite Neo Nazi networks in Ukraine culminating in 1953 with the CIA creating a special unit called "Unit 2245" to capture and analyze Russian military hardware using the Anti Semitic and murderous Banderites to do their dirty work.
During the 1950s-1960s, The CIA infiltrated Ukrainian ultra nationalists and increased support for their terror operations in Ukraine, these continued up until the 1970s when the CIA conducted black propaganda operations in Ukraine and provided support to anti-Russian groups of any kind, regardless of their methods or penchant for murder and terrorism
Onwards into the 1980s-1990s, the CIA continued to support Ukrainian nationalist groups and provided intelligence on Soviet military activities in Ukraine, attempting to use Neo Nazi groups for sabotage and terror operations in the country.
In the 1990s, with the collapse of the Soviet Union, the CIA shifted its focus to supporting Ukraine's transition to "democracy" and spent hundreds of millions of black money countering Russian influence by funding bribery and destabilising legitimate political groups and media outlets.
2014-present: Following Russia's action in Crimea in response the CIA backed and planned Coup in Kiev, and the subsequent illegal toppling of the legitimate President of Ukraine, the CIA embarked on a complex. And wide ranging involvement with Ukraines feared SBU security service, assisting them in planning operations such as the assassination of unarmed female journalists, the targeting of Russian politicians and officials in Donbas and Lugansk and countless other actions which, if carried out against an American ally, would be immediately classed as terrorism.
So, let's go back to the start.
Could any objective observer, when in possession of the facts listed above regarding Washingtons decades long determined attempts to start a devastating Civil War in Ukraine, consider Russias actions as "Unprovoked"?
The War hungry elites determined to perpetuate the conflict in Ukraine, that their Governments essentially started planning decades ago, rely on your ignorance to prop up their deceitful narrative
Don't play their game.
Follow and support me @irishmaninrussia or @boweschay on X
Two Majors - English Channel
One of the biggest deceptions in the West is that the US only started "supporting" Ukraine after Russian troops finally crossed the border in February 2022. The "Unprovoked invasion" line is peddled continually by Westen client Media, so let's have a look at the facts and then decide if...
t.me
One of the biggest deceptions in the West is that the US only started "supporting" Ukraine after Russian troops finally crossed the border in February 2022.
The "Unprovoked invasion" line is peddled continually by Westen client Media, so let's have a look at the facts and then decide if Russias actions were indeed "Unprovoked"
The truth is that as far back as the 1940s-1950s The CIA established "close contacts" with the Organisation of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) and the Ukrainian Rebel Army (UPA) two groups of brutal Nazi collaborators (now widely celebrated as heroes in Dictator Zelenskys Ukraine) and perpetrators of unspeakable massacres of Jews, Poles and Russians alongside their Nazi allies in WW2
The CIA provided them with weapons, cash, support, and training in an effort to destabilize Ukraine and promote Ukrainian ultra nationalism
Then, In the 1950s, the CIA launched "Operation Aerodynamic", which aimed to support Banderite Neo Nazi networks in Ukraine culminating in 1953 with the CIA creating a special unit called "Unit 2245" to capture and analyze Russian military hardware using the Anti Semitic and murderous Banderites to do their dirty work.
During the 1950s-1960s, The CIA infiltrated Ukrainian ultra nationalists and increased support for their terror operations in Ukraine, these continued up until the 1970s when the CIA conducted black propaganda operations in Ukraine and provided support to anti-Russian groups of any kind, regardless of their methods or penchant for murder and terrorism
Onwards into the 1980s-1990s, the CIA continued to support Ukrainian nationalist groups and provided intelligence on Soviet military activities in Ukraine, attempting to use Neo Nazi groups for sabotage and terror operations in the country.
In the 1990s, with the collapse of the Soviet Union, the CIA shifted its focus to supporting Ukraine's transition to "democracy" and spent hundreds of millions of black money countering Russian influence by funding bribery and destabilising legitimate political groups and media outlets.
2014-present: Following Russia's action in Crimea in response the CIA backed and planned Coup in Kiev, and the subsequent illegal toppling of the legitimate President of Ukraine, the CIA embarked on a complex. And wide ranging involvement with Ukraines feared SBU security service, assisting them in planning operations such as the assassination of unarmed female journalists, the targeting of Russian politicians and officials in Donbas and Lugansk and countless other actions which, if carried out against an American ally, would be immediately classed as terrorism.
So, let's go back to the start.
Could any objective observer, when in possession of the facts listed above regarding Washingtons decades long determined attempts to start a devastating Civil War in Ukraine, consider Russias actions as "Unprovoked"?
The War hungry elites determined to perpetuate the conflict in Ukraine, that their Governments essentially started planning decades ago, rely on your ignorance to prop up their deceitful narrative
Don't play their game.
Follow and support me @irishmaninrussia or @boweschay on X
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