Russia - Ukraine war part ll. News and Discussions

[Yommie]

Of which year?

This year. There's only a bit left. 10% or so. And all the logistics routes are cut.

 

[BigGazza]

Russians rely on quantity and quality advantage over Ukrainians but Ukrainians are more fearsome warriors descended from Kievan Rus which is Vikings.

What?

Kievan Rus are the progenitors of the modern Russians, not Ukrainians. Kiev is a Russian city, not Ukrainian. Prior to the rise of the USSR, "Ukraine" was term for the nebulous western borderlands between Russian slavic influence and East Europe (Polish/Lithuania Commonwealth, Swedes, Hungarians, Romanians etc). Their may be a dialect & cultural difference between the ethnic Russian lands in the Kiev and Moscow regions of influence, but it was only skin deep. These contemporary divergences are a transient thing, initially driven by Leninist bolshies desire to de-emphasise the Russian identity in the new USSR and create a seperate Ukrainian identity (incorporating Tsarist-era Novorossiya intp the newly created Ukrainian SSR in 1922, and then Kruschev transferring Crimea in 1954), and also by the inclusion of non-Russian ex-Hapsberg European peoples as part of an expanded West Ukraine. Since 1991 the divergence has been a deliberate policy of the West in concert with Ukrainian nationalists from the ex-Hapsberg regions, driven by a toxic mix of geopolitical conflict, race hate and latent ethnic supremacy in those who cling to Banderite ideology.

The idea that "Ukrainians" are more fearsome than "Russians" is like saying our right foot is superior to our left.

 

[BigGazza]

Looks like Dobropillia might fall soon.

Old news. The pressure on mapping sites to conform to the infowar narratives is becoming intense. Lots of grey money is sloshing around to "influence" the mapping projects to stick to Western narratives. FWIW Dobropilya has already been liberated, now they are mopping up.

 

[BigGazza]

9M544 is the unsung hero of the war.

Agreed, and its amusing to note the diametrically opposite treatment in the Western MSM between their previous adoration of HIMARS and their total dismissal of Russian analogs like Smerch, Tornado, Uragan and TOS.

A wonderful example of pro-narrative pandering and institutional bias.

 

[Viet]

Not bad with that amount
5,000 jet powered, 2,000 propeller powered a month
Putin war machine goes all in.
Ukraine needs to top that number.