Russia - Ukraine war part ll. News and Discussions

[Musings]

Yes - aid provided to Ukraine by US and EU and allies totals $382 bln since 2022 and it's not just military equipment but also civilian one and financial aid.

Russia has not received a comparable amount.

Wonder how much went to Zelenskys personal account?

 

[Leclerc]

Wonder how much went to Zelenskys personal account?

I rather wonder what if even 10% of that went into science...

 

[BigGazza]

Well, this war lasted 5 years, in an active combat stage, and still the best Russia can hope for at this point is to take the whole Donbas.

No, the plan is to collapse Ukraine as a viable state and impose a Russia-mandated solution that ticks Russias boxes and deliver a strategic defeat to the US/EU/NATO b'stardz who engineered this conflict and have done everthing possible to stoke it further in a bid to collapse the Russian state.

On the other hand, what does Russia "achieve" even after they have completely taken Donbas? Add 20% of Ukrainian territories in their territories? And completely lost 80% of Ukraine? Or do you think in your crazy mind Ukrainian would simply forget about this and make friends with Russia again in the future? Or even crazier, think Russia can push all the way to Kyiv?

Ukraine will collapse and Russia will take everything east oif the Dnepr, plus cross the river to liberate Nikolayev and Odessa, and take Kiev (the proper spelling). Russia doesn't want ex-Hapsberg regions as those people have nothing in common with the historical Russian world, so they will be cut loose, though any such "rump Ukraine" (minus Hungarian, Romanian, Moldovan areas) will have restrictions placed upon it and a refusal to stay in thei lane will incur... penalities...

BTW if Germany can be converted post-WW2 into a friendly (and subservient) state then you're barmy if you think that post-bandera Ukraine in the Russian zone won't be reclaimed and fully redeemed.

I don't see the need or want to keep talking to you.

Well, we can agree on somethings it seems... Hit the road nazi-lover.