Saudis must recognise Israel for nuclear deal, says Trump

[_Arabia_]

Selling the technology of enrichment that they are asking for since last 20 years. Having natural uranium ore is one thing and having technology is absolutely different.

If Saudi Arabia has the audacity to to take part that Pakistan or India took they are more then welcome to acquire it. If even they think of trying to get their hands on neuclear technology covertly with US consent then probably that would be the last day of Alsaud reign.

I am not aware of KSA asking for this technology for 20 years. Any evidence of this?

You do realize that this is exactly what is going to occur according to the deal signed with the US?

It allows KSA to enrich uranium within KSA for "peaceful" purposes. As well as the establishment of advanced nuclear reactors and nuclear power plants to met the energy needs of KSA in regards to electricity, water desalination etc.

KSA already has nuclear warheads due to the Pakistani connection (open secret). Confirmed by high-ranking CIA elements, MI6 and even as recently as Iranian high-ranking iRGC officials (February 2026).

You think that KSA financial and political help for Pakistan in this endeavor (nuclear weapons) came for free?

Same way that Pakistan provides KSA a nuclear umbrella. The recent signed defense treaty mentions that nuclear weapons are part of this deal.

Once again, KSA has the uranium, the missiles, the missile bases, the wealth, the political will, the scientific and human capital and soon to be (either with the US or another partner) a civilian nuclear program and infrastructure.

Basically allowing KSA to eventually pursue domestically constructed nuclear weapons some time in the future if the need to do so arrises.

We have seen the limitations of US regime removals in numerous countries what makes you think that the 3rd richest country on the planet in terms of natural resources and wealth, one of the largest countries on earth, one of the wealthiest in terms of economic size and the homeland of Makkah and Madinah and one of the most important countries for 2 + billion Muslims and 550 + million Arabs worldwide, will be easy?

If Pakistan in the 1990's (weaker than KSA nowadays) and North Korea could do it and a host of countries were close to it, KSA could do so as well.

And KSA would be much harder to sanction than Iran for 100's of reasons.

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Western "experts" are already panicking, lol.

Israeli leaders are already crying because they can see where all this will ultimately lead to.

 

[bafxet]

I am not aware of KSA asking for this technology for 20 years. Any evidence of this?

You do realize that this is exactly what is going to occur according to the deal signed with the US?

It allows KSA to enrich uranium within KSA for "peaceful" purposes. As well as the establishment of advanced nuclear reactors and nuclear power plants to met the energy needs of KSA in regards to electricity, water desalination etc.

KSA already has nuclear warheads due to the Pakistani connection (open secret). Confirmed by high-ranking CIA elements, MI6 and even as recently as Iranian high-ranking iRGC officials (February 2026).

You think that KSA financial and political help for Pakistan in this endeavor (nuclear weapons) came for free?

Same way that Pakistan provides KSA a nuclear umbrella. The recent signed defense treaty mentions that nuclear weapons are part of this deal.

Once again, KSA has the uranium, the missiles, the missile bases, the wealth, the political will, the scientific and human capital and soon to be (either with the US or another partner) a civilian nuclear program and infrastructure.

Basically allowing KSA to eventually pursue domestically constructed nuclear weapons some time in the future if the need to do so arrises.

We have seen the limitations of US regime removals in numerous countries what makes you think that the 3rd richest country on the planet in terms of natural resources and wealth, one of the largest countries on earth, one of the wealthiest in terms of economic size and the homeland of Makkah and Madinah and one of the most important countries for 2 + billion Muslims and 550 + million Arabs worldwide, will be easy?

If Pakistan in the 1990's (weaker than KSA nowadays) and North Korea could do it and a host of countries were close to it, KSA could do so as well.

And KSA would be much harder to sanction than Iran for 100's of reasons.

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Western "experts" are already panicking, lol.

Israeli leaders are already crying because they can see where all this will ultimately lead to.

Just one thing KSA has all the rights in the world to neuclear program of their own. I'm absolutely for it. That's what I am convinced about.

 

[_Arabia_]

Just one thing KSA has all the rights in the world to neuclear program of their own. I'm absolutely for it. That's what I am convinced about.

There is zero doubt in my mind that KSA has several nuclear warheads already.

In any case KSA needs a healthy balance of nuclear energy and renewable energy (wind and solar mostly), clean hydrogen etc. for domestic energy needs in order for oil and gas to be purely for export purposes aside from the chemical derivatives in various industries and sectors.

Anyway for me it is also a question of principle. I struggle to see why ancient technology, such as nuclear weapons, are supposed to be limited to a few. The same few that do not really have many commonalities other than past and present regimes of theirs pursuing this technology.

I also believe that the second largest ethnic group in the world (Arabs), inhabiting one of the most important areas In the world strategically (right in the center of the world) and in terms of natural resources and mineral wealth, trade routes etc., with the world's oldest documented civilizations and cultures, a former imperial power who created some of the world's largest and most important empires, a civilizational people inhabiting one of the world's largest landmasses spanning 2 continents, aside from a region of the world facing many enemies/hostile powers (in recent era and nowadays), should have nuclear weapons.

Not that I think or believe that KSA would use such weapons but it would serve as a detterent for potential enemies. There is a reason why 2 nuclear powers have never waged a full-scale war against each other.

Also if other regional actors pursue the same thing, it will be more difficult for outsiders to prevent nuclear proliferation in the region.

If tiny Arab Jewish Israel can have nuclear weapons.....

Anyway it is question of what the leadership is willing to sacrifice and how smart they will be. If they will be as stupid as the Iranian regime - we should forget it all together and have a regime change. But nothing (so far) points to this being the case.

 

[peagle]

obsession about the Saudi Arabian/Arabian/Arab origin (self-proclaimed)

I have seen you make this or similar statements many times. you need to calm down.
No one gives a damn about being an Arab, they do give a damn about being a Muslim and the Islamic heritage.
Do not confuse Islam with Arabs they're two different entities. Arab identity itself came out of Islam, but that's a different discussion.

A small minority is allowed to claim Arab heritage, Pakistan is at the crossroads of many different cultural groupings, is it surprising that there would be some Arab origin citizens of Pakistan.

Furthermore, where do you think people came from, they didn't grow out of the ground, they came from the west, including you, out of Africa. My own DNA shows two locations Syria/Lebanon area form maternal side and Southern Jordan, Northern Arabia on the paternal side, that's going back thousands of years.
Neither I, nor vast majority of Pakistanis give a damn, except about our Indus heritage and only about Islam, so don't confuse the issues. Islam is the only reason we give a damn about you lot. So calm down.
You weaken the links with your arrogance.

 

[_Arabia_]

I have seen you make this or similar statements many times. you need to calm down.
No one gives a damn about being an Arab, they do give a damn about being a Muslim and the Islamic heritage.
Do not confuse Islam with Arabs they're two different entities. Arab identity itself came out of Islam, but that's a different discussion.

A small minority is allowed to claim Arab heritage, Pakistan is at the crossroads of many different cultural groupings, is it surprising that there would be some Arab origin citizens of Pakistan.

Furthermore, where do you think people came from, they didn't grow out of the ground, they came from the west, including you, out of Africa. My own DNA shows two locations Syria/Lebanon area form maternal side and Southern Jordan, Northern Arabia on the paternal side, that's going back thousands of years.
Neither I, nor vast majority of Pakistanis give a damn, except about our Indus heritage and only about Islam, so don't confuse the issues. Islam is the only reason we give a damn about you lot. So calm down.
You weaken the links with your arrogance.

I suggest you reread my posts.

I am strictly referring to and addressing (in those posts) the well-known anti-KSA/anti-Arab Pakistanis who are worshipping the Iranian regime (which proudly and openly claims Arab ancestry from modern-day KSA) and who are indoctrinated to hate the people and landmass (Arabia) that is the cradle of Islamic civilization. It is this schizophrenic behavior that I am addressing.

Not even going to talk about the fact that the sect they follow originates in KSA, their own personal names (most likely), the alphabet of their language (languages), how Islam and de facto Arab culture has impacted the culture, practices and traditions of their people in every way and sphere you can think about. The linguistic importance of Arabic in their own language (as). No more influential language than Arabic in the Muslim world.

Not to mention that around 15-20% (some say 10% but nevertheless a sizable portion) of Saudi Arabians are Shias of various dominations (Twelver, Zaydi, Ismaili).

Have you ever met a single Catholic who has an unhealthy hatred/obsession against the Vatican or Christian holy sights in Palestine and the local people there?

Their obsession and hatred is not limited against the current ruling dynasty in KSA (House of Saud) but it is aimed at Arabia as a whole, our people (Arabs), history and everything else.

I could not care (don't care to begin with but it is always funny to expose their schizophrenic behavior) if it was just about regime dislike or foreign policies dislike, but it goes way beyond that. It is some kind of weird pagan racial/religious obsession and indoctrinated hatred mixed with ignorance and generalizations. And we know who is the "father" of this propaganda and which enemy regime that is behind this.

Which is why we will hunt down every traitor and such cancerous implants (cultists) within the Arab world, wherever they might be.

Not sure why you are talking about Arab settlements in Pakistan (South Asia as whole - well documented with 10's upon 10's of Arab dynasties - well-recorded), even in the more modern era the Nizam of Hyderabad (his own dynasty of Arab ancestry) hired Yemeni soldiers and entire families for religious, military, scholarly etc. reasons, Sri Lankan Moors (million big community), several Muslim South Indian communities of partial Arab ancestry in Kerala and elsewhere, millennia old trade ties that predate IVC, Dilmun, Magan, Sumer, Al-Magar etc.

Human migrations as well, first humans that settled South Asia came from Arabia originally. Well established as well and which you yourself have eluded to.

Writing historical facts have nothing to do with arrogance and if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle. The same thing could be said the other way around - don't forget that - what would the viewpoint be if Arabs had not spread Islam to South Asia and the other historical reasons (that I alluded to and yourself)? Similar to how we view Bhutan or Nepal.

Anyway you missed the points as I wrote but never mind. The topic of this thread is not about this.

 

[kmc_chacko]

Since SA is one of the pillars of Pakistan's existence and just for the sake of discussion,

consider that SA recognize/accept or do/accepts whatever US says, and later SA asks/directs Pakistan to follow it, then will Pakistan follow it ?

and due to internal pressure if Pakistan refuses, and if SA pressure back Pakistan by means of its political control or force by means like withdraw concession/ deposit/ loan/ investments ? what will be Pakistan's stand ?

If not then what are Pakistan's political & economic options to overcome such pressures ?

I am just expressing my opinion based on view considering change in entire geo-political situation in Middle East & South Asia, if SA recognize Israel.