Somalia Reportedly Agrees to Acquire Pakistan’s JF-17 Fighter Jets

[Pakistan First]

It's not just against militants,,

A lot of things are happening in the region

A attempt will be made to make bases for Israel, the U.S and others and we need a stronger Somalia backed by the Muslim world

Muslim World ? That's dying to give nobel peace prize to Trump. From FM to Erdogan and everyone in the region stand in line and heap praises for Trump and you think they can do a thing or two against US if it ever wanted to make bases lol.

I absolutely loved and appreciated Makkah defence alliance, but I am practical enough and know that it cannot deter US. Maybe it can deter any solo Israeli adventure but not if something is joint US-Israeli.

 

[SBD-3]

Exactly this, PAF use JF-17 as part of an ecosystem designed to fight a peer. I imagine Somalis want something capable to keep small neighbours or rebel groups in line and maybe air policing. Beauty of JF-17 is it can do both. In fact it may not be a bad idea to give the somaliis some used JF-17 IIs with the ASELAN targeting pod, LGBs and just WVR missiles, still meets Somali needs but keeps production line free for PAF.

Will Somalis even need the AESA/PL-15 capability?

I agree that block III is kind of an overkill for Somalia. Block IIs could have been more cost effective option to meet their needs. I guess if Somali money would have been in play, this was a certain outcome. But since the money is coming from Saudis, Somalia can purchase Block III.

 

[hussain0216]

Muslim World ? That's dying to give nobel peace prize to Trump. From FM to Erdogan and everyone in the region stand in line and heap praises for Trump and you think they can do a thing or two against US if it ever wanted to make bases lol.

I absolutely loved and appreciated Makkah defence alliance, but I am practical enough and know that it cannot deter US. Maybe it can deter any solo Israeli adventure but not if something is joint US-Israeli.

Diplomacy is not about Bangor your chest at everyone

Pakistan knows Trump is a moron
We know he is volatile
We also know he will never get the nobel

So what's the harm in placating him to keep American irrationality away from Pakistan


Pakistan has done incredibly well of late dealing with multiple states



We just have a moronic ignorant population, that just loves emotional outbursts and chest beating like some hero in Bollywood film

 

[Pakistan First]

Diplomacy is not about Bangor your chest at everyone

Pakistan knows Trump is a moron
We know he is volatile
We also know he will never get the nobel

So what's the harm in placating him to keep American irrationality away from Pakistan


Pakistan has done incredibly well of late dealing with multiple states



We just have a moronic ignorant population, that just loves emotional outbursts and chest beating like some hero in Bollywood film

It's not just against militants,,

A lot of things are happening in the region

A attempt will be made to make bases for Israel, the U.S and others and we need a stronger Somalia backed by the Muslim world

Its extremely comical that at one side you are saying, "Muslim World" can deter US / Israel. (Chest beating at extreme) and other hand saying "moronic ignorant population who loves emotional outbursts and chest beating" -- that's exactly what you are doing yourself.

I only gave you touch of reality, that "Muslim World" isn't really at any level to do, that's understandable from their behavior. I give you realistic example of extreme appeasement & bowing down in front of Trump - that tells exact situation of how powerful your state is. If we'd be in anyway powerful enough to "deter" US as you yourself suggested then we'd have never resorted to those appeasements.

You stooped to defened the appeasement as "diplomacy" -- OK I agree, then you can never say in the same breath that we are also powerful enough to deter the US. No! Absolutely not. Both cannot be true. Stick to one reality. You can't have delusion of being so powerful and yet find excuses for appeasement policy.

I being a realistic fellow, knows that we are not that powerful -- that's why I argued on your statement of "Muslim World" powerful enough to deter the US.

 

[hussain0216]

Its extremely comical that at one side you are saying, "Muslim World" can deter US / Israel. (Chest beating at extreme) and other hand saying "moronic ignorant population who loves emotional outbursts and chest beating" -- that's exactly what you are doing yourself.

I only gave you touch of reality, that "Muslim World" isn't really at any level to do, that's understandable from their behavior. I give you realistic example of extreme appeasement & bowing down in front of Trump - that tells exact situation of how powerful your state is. If we'd be in anyway powerful enough to "deter" US as you yourself suggested then we'd have never resorted to those appeasements.

You stooped to defened the appeasement as "diplomacy" -- OK I agree, then you can never say in the same breath that we are also powerful enough to deter the US. No! Absolutely not. Both cannot be true. Stick to one reality. You can't have delusion of being so powerful and yet find excuses for appeasement policy.

I being a realistic fellow, knows that we are not that powerful -- that's why I argued on your statement of "Muslim World" powerful enough to deter the US.

Look this is not too difficult

The Muslim world is MASSIVE
If the Muslim world PLANS and Unites then it can become a true world power stretching from Indonesia to Morocco

But the requires PLANNING


That is what they are trying to do now, start making alliances and plans for join production, investment, improving military capabilities

And THEN after a time period (years, even DECADES) THEY WILL BE READY


In the meantime you can't act like a clown when you AREN'T READY, because your enemy will try to snuff you out when you are not strong enough to resist


This isn't rocket science

 

[Pakistan First]

Look this is not too difficult

The Muslim world is MASSIVE
If the Muslim world PLANS and Unites then it can become a true world power stretching from Indonesia to Morocco

But the requires PLANNING


That is what they are trying to do now, start making alliances and plans for join production, investment, improving military capabilities

And THEN after a time period (years, even DECADES) THEY WILL BE READY


In the meantime you can't act like a clown when you AREN'T READY, because your enemy will try to snuff you out when you are not strong enough to resist


This isn't rocket science

True, if its a long term goal. Then I agree with your assessment.

Lot of If's involved but anyways not the thread to discuss all that.