Starmer’s future hangs in balance after Burnham’s Makerfield election win

[KingQamaR]

Starmers should have gone ages ago totally out of his depths, doesn’t stand for anything only interested in antisemitism and foreign affairs. Honestly he was terrible . He just was blind to his faults. He is a robot . A controlling authoritarian Israeli bot.

All he did brother was to make us poorer and more divided. Under him we so a huge rise in popular right wing parties and politicians.

 

[Ali_Baba]

For those overseas, who are confused about what we seeing, what I will say is that what you are witnessing is a healthy democracy that is working as needed.

Leaders are in place for as long as they serve value, and when they don't, they are disposed of. We don't need to wait for 4-5 years change leaders if we need to. It takes just one afternoon if required.

I much rather take this setup, than the American setup where leaders are hardly ever changed during their tenure no matter how utterly utterly bad they are.

We in the UK will never be in a situation where a dementia ridden fool like Donald Trump could remain as a leader if he goes against the national interest. I prefer this setup to the American setup.

UK institutions are deep and democracy here is something that works better than most countries, as such even with these leadership changes, the "show goes on uninterrupted".

 

[Yasser76]

For those overseas, who are confused about what we seeing, what I will say is that what you are witnessing is a healthy democracy that is working as needed.

Leaders are in place for as long as they serve value, and when they don't, they are disposed of. We don't need to wait for 4-5 years change leaders if we need to. It takes just one afternoon if required.

I much rather take this setup, than the American setup where leaders are hardly ever changed during their tenure no matter how utterly utterly bad they are.

We in the UK will never be in a situation where a dementia ridden fool like Donald Trump could remain as a leader if he goes against the national interest. I prefer this setup to the American setup.

UK institutions are deep and democracy here is something that works better than most countries, as such even with these leadership changes, the "show goes on uninterrupted".

Very good points

 

[Watandar]

Mr Starmer was a successful lawyer before entering politics but he never transitioned into being a complete politician. Maybe he thought it was beneath him. A politician has to be comfortable with people, groups, debates and managing relationships. You cannot remain a lawyer by method and temperament and be a successful full time politician.

 

[harpy1]

For those overseas, who are confused about what we seeing, what I will say is that what you are witnessing is a healthy democracy that is working as needed.

Leaders are in place for as long as they serve value, and when they don't, they are disposed of. We don't need to wait for 4-5 years change leaders if we need to. It takes just one afternoon if required.

I much rather take this setup, than the American setup where leaders are hardly ever changed during their tenure no matter how utterly utterly bad they are.

We in the UK will never be in a situation where a dementia ridden fool like Donald Trump could remain as a leader if he goes against the national interest. I prefer this setup to the American setup.

UK institutions are deep and democracy here is something that works better than most countries, as such even with these leadership changes, the "show goes on uninterrupted".

Trump is the most comical circus I have ever seen in my life I'm.stunned his not in prison already as a threat to national security
He nearly started a war with NATO over Greenland
Publically humiliated Japanese prime minster over Hiroshima remarks
Destroyed Ukraine prime minster like school kid over his dress code
Destroyed the world economy over Iran
And jumped into bed with china got publically humiliated by karney at Davos for bullying the world
Ridiculous comments over UK.and Starmer IE is no Churchill
To cap it off destroyed a two Decades old strategic relationship with India

 

[Watandar]

Trump is the most comical circus I have ever seen in my life I'm.stunned his not in prison already as a threat to national security
He nearly started a war with NATO over Greenland
Publically humiliated Japanese prime minster over Hiroshima remarks
Destroyed Ukraine prime minster like school kid over his dress code
Destroyed the world economy over Iran
And jumped into bed with china got publically humiliated by karney at Davos for bullying the world
Ridiculous comments over UK.and Starmer IE is no Churchill
To cap it off destroyed a two Decades old strategic relationship with India

OT but that is by design. Trump was sent by voters who felt the current domestic and international systems had just screwed them over and should be burnt down.

 

[KingQamaR]

For those overseas, who are confused about what we seeing, what I will say is that what you are witnessing is a healthy democracy that is working as needed.

Leaders are in place for as long as they serve value, and when they don't, they are disposed of. We don't need to wait for 4-5 years change leaders if we need to. It takes just one afternoon if required.

I much rather take this setup, than the American setup where leaders are hardly ever changed during their tenure no matter how utterly utterly bad they are.

We in the UK will never be in a situation where a dementia ridden fool like Donald Trump could remain as a leader if he goes against the national interest. I prefer this setup to the American setup.

UK institutions are deep and democracy here is something that works better than most countries, as such even with these leadership changes, the "show goes on uninterrupted".

Idiocracy is seeping in from the US it seems. U.K. always copies America. if Reform get into government then, and I cannot believe I am saying this, thank god for the house of the lords . They will be a persistent thorn in the side of any wannabe UK Trump version. We have thick Brits who would want to elect Nigel farage and Robert Lowe as the next U.K. Government . People should be scared sh!tress of these people getting into government. It’s going to be bad.

 

[Musings]

UK institutions are deep and democracy here is something that works better than most countries, as such even with these leadership changes, the "show goes on uninterrupted".

Brexit has set the country back. Under lies and false narrative the country become more divided than ever giving the rise to Reform and now Restore.
The day after the Brexit vote - Farage turned round and said the 350 million on the side of the bus was.....a lie. Then that opportunistic bastard Johnson took full advantage - lying at every turn to the country until he was found out. Democracy and politics has since become dirty and propagated by media such as the Daily Mail.
Now it needs to be "cleaned up" - the Labour party has forgotten the definition of its creation - built on the working class and unions. Starmer told them to go forth and same with the Muslim vote. Arrogance and putting in people that are employed by the Israeli project like McSweeny have brought his downfall.
Lets hope for the change we badly crave for.

 

[KingQamaR]

Mr Starmer was a successful lawyer before entering politics but he never transitioned into being a complete politician. Maybe he thought it was beneath him. A politician has to be comfortable with people, groups, debates and managing relationships. You cannot remain a lawyer by method and temperament and be a successful full time politician.

Nah

He was a liar. Starmer promised things to the left to win the leadership and immediately dropped them. So , the minute he faltered they were, rightly , going to punish him.

 

[Musings]

Mr Starmer was a successful lawyer before entering politics but he never transitioned into being a complete politician. Maybe he thought it was beneath him. A politician has to be comfortable with people, groups, debates and managing relationships. You cannot remain a lawyer by method and temperament and be a successful full time politician.

Bro
Not just ANY lawyer - he was head of the crown prosecution services - extremely powerful role. Dont you think he didnt know what he was saying when he said - "Israel has a right to cut off water and electric to defend itself, " This was a calculated and thought out response his advisors told him to put out their. Reversed his statement 3 days later. Point was noted by a million Muslims loyal to Labour. He put in Luke Akehurst - an absolute vile racist and Zionist into a safe seat - that set the alarm bells off.
When an MP is more loyal to a foreign body like Israel - you got issues.

 

[BananaRepublic]

The contributions we make are not for our own pension. They aren’t brother. We get our pensions out of the big state money pot, and when we aren’t earning or have retired it’s the contribution's of those who are working and are adding to the pot that hopefully will provides our payments. The contribution's of the younger workers will actually be pay in yours and mine pension. And like I said any extra tax we pay or any buisness pay will also be paying towards the services you and your fellow pensioners are using. It’s like a big circle ️

It’s a Ponzi scheme

 

[BananaRepublic]

Bro
Not just ANY lawyer - he was head of the crown prosecution services - extremely powerful role. Dont you think he didnt know what he was saying when he said - "Israel has a right to cut off water and electric to defend itself, " This was a calculated and thought out response his advisors told him to put out their. Reversed his statement 3 days later. Point was noted by a million Muslims loyal to Labour. He put in Luke Akehurst - an absolute vile racist and Zionist into a safe seat - that set the alarm bells off.
When an MP is more loyal to a foreign body like Israel - you got issues.

He knew exactly what he was saying - before being slapped down.

They don’t call him two-tier U-turn Kier for nothing.

Withholding water and food from anyone is actually a war crime.

If any Muslim did that - they would demonise our entire religion.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

OT but that is by design. Trump was sent by voters who felt the current domestic and international systems had just screwed them over and should be burnt down.

TBT, the majority of the House and Senate is a bigger threat to national security than Trump is. He's a relative newbie to the scene. They've been at it for years.