TF-X / KAAN / Hürjet Turkish Fighter & Trainer Aircrafts News & Discussions

hyperman said:
The F414-EPE and newer variants have 26,400 lbf (117 kN), giving an almost 11:1 thrust/weight ratio.

The M88 is underpowered, compared to both the F414 and the EJ200.
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So compare F414 EPE and M88 T-rex. Same perf increase (+20%), so the less than 4% difference remains my dear.

If these 2 engines are built for same purpose : good in all, but not optimised in one field, EJ200 can't be compared : optimised for high altitude, as M53 in its time. less optimised for CAS mission.
 
Are we still in the KAAN thread, since - contrary what certain fan-boys think - I'm indeed interested in and impressed by this type - I only don't think it is the best of the best and will be ready soon - but these constant France/Turkey comparisons are just off topic and in fact irrelevant!?
 
BonPlan said:
no.
We need a heavy fighter (maybe lighter than the german one) to carry internally the deterrent ASN4G. And if not, why building a 80.000 tons carrier ?
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This is not correct. The FCAS project failed mainly because France aimed for a lightweight fighter, whereas Germany favored a fighter jet that resembled a heavy bomber, capable of flying to Moscow and back.
 
BonPlan said:
It is not because the FCAS prototyp was supposed to use a M88 derivative than the serially FCAS would use it !
1) Safran already have flight tested a 9tons M88. A 10.5T was already studied.
2) for limited flight tests, it is always possible to boost an engine, with a life span reduction.
3) M88 was choosen because no intelectual property issue. Not the EJ200 case for exemple, not to speak of US ones.
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How about your India? Where does it rank?
 
hyperman said:
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Ita a good temporary fix, until the TF35000 comes into production.

The only issue seems to be if the US can make timely deliveries.

India paid in full, and they've received only a tiny portion of the engines they were promised by the US, with years long delays.
 
That_Guy said:
Ita a good temporary fix, until the TF35000 comes into production.

The only issue seems to be if the US can make timely deliveries.

India paid in full, and they've received only a tiny portion of the engines they were promised by the US, with years long delays.
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The F110 engine has a market price of about US$5 million. So how much are the engines in this batch that the United States is selling to Turkey?

I would guess they are priced at around US$10 million per engine
 
royalharris said:
The F110 engine has a market price of about US$5 million. So how much are the engines in this batch that the United States is selling to Turkey?

I would guess they are priced at around US$10 million per engine
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700 million dollar.
 
The estimate of US$10 million per engine is only an average figure. The actual selling price could range anywhere from US$8 million to US$15 million per engine.

Of course, the most critical factor is whether the engines will actually be delivered and when the delivery will take place.
 
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